Should I vote Labour Mark 11

Get behind a man without principles? Not for me, I have principles .

But I did see Prezza , was going to stop for a chat but DH dragged me away
He is so annoying
Well, they both are!

Tee hee - which one was that Jalima?

Jezza was in Hull today (apparently) but I missed him by a whisker.

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For those who vote Labour but don't want Corbyn.

So what do you call it RAR when you have agreed to buy something but don't know either the cost or the consequences? Blank cheque seems good to me or, on another thread I have suggested The Theresa May Party uses the Mushroom Theory of Manangement.

Blank Cheque - in the literal sense, is a cheque that has no numerical value written in, but is already signed.

Voting May into power is signing that cheque while she refuses to tell us the figures that will go into it. What else can we call it?

Maybot was in Wales today. I wonder how many people she spoke to.

Annie, it looks like a lot of your compatriots do not agree with your view of Corbyn.

Labour well ahead in Welsh polls

Now we know what Corbyn meant when he said he wanted a new style of politics,

Has your brexit book got pictures, whitewave?

Cameron's 2010 promises were even better. No top down reorganisation of the NHS, anyone?

Oh! Similar to Cameron's pre-election promises? So ridiculous that they weren't workable.

Page 43 of the manifesto.

Yes ww many times, is it a funny one by any chance?

I agree ab it's the closest to buying votes brazenly that I have ever seen!

Talking about Brexit did I tell you I'm reading this really good book?

I read somewhere that there will be no actual extra money - just the usual smoke and mirrors.

All this 'blank cheque ' ( or blank check) stuff , it doesn't mean anything at all.
All governments get a say in what happens when they have been elected.
If it means terms of Brexit, then it's unknowable anyway what we will come out at the end with.

Create a unified national education service for England that is free at the point of use

Abolish university tuition fees, reintroduce maintenance grants, and restore the education maintenance allowance for 16-18 year olds from lower and middle income backgrounds

Free school meals for all schoolchildren

From Labour's manifesto, Annie. You really should read it.

This is one cost they did put in their manifesto.

" On the NHS, the Tory manifesto says: "We will increase NHS spending by a minimum of £8 billion in real terms over the next five years, delivering an increase in real funding per head of the population for every year of the parliament."

What does this mean?

Does it mean what it says - £8bn of extra funding over five years, a mere pittance given the huge funding requirements of the service?

Does it mean what it might say - £8bn a year for five years, a significant commitment that would have a meaningful impact on the struggling NHS?

The manifesto certainly sounds like the former, and this is what the Tory press office said this morning. But then Conservative MP and potential post-election cabinet minister Dominic Raab told Andrew Neil on the BBC that it was £8bn each year - that means £40bn in total. Significant money.

The confusion was not limited to journalists - seasoned and respected health think tanks were working the phones, trying to decode the commitment as well.

In the end, Conservative press office has clarified that it's neither - it's not £8bn over five years, but it's not £8bn a year. It's £8bn more in the fifth year of the next parliament than now.

But what about the years in between?

We don't know. They don't know. The press office is trying to find out. But at this moment, there is absolutely no clarity on how much the Conservatives will spend on the NHS - it could be a little over £8bn over five years, or it could be just under £40bn over five years.

And we don't know where the money will come from. Partly because we don't know for sure whether this is simply recycling George Osborne's commitment made in 2015 to spend £8bn more by 2020, in which case, large chunks will not be new money.

So we have anywhere between £8bn and £40bn with no apparent costing."

Anyone understand it?

A what?

And why aren't you lot praising Corbyn for all the work he's doing on the doorsteps of Britain touting for Labour votes? Or does he just sit back, leave it all to his lackeys and make the odd forray into voting land when he's sure he'll get a good reception?

Ana May has said they WONT be posting them - unless she changes her mind again. She has actually said that.

She doesn't feel the need to tell the proles what it will cost them and possibly let us see what she is doing to us all. She is working on the mushroom theory of management. I thought you understood that. You will be signing a blank check if you put her in to power.

And you can scoff and hold your sides laughing at me all you want, GGetc, ww and durj - but I coudn't care less!

I want to put on record, as a socialist and long time Labour Party member I am sickened by this mornings announcement that university fees will be scrapped this year and advising registrating to vote must be done today . Just a step away from trying to buy votes, why wasn't it in the manifesto ?