Is it too late for a U turn on Brexit or at least watering it down?

Seriously?!

that would make sense, in a weird kind of way!

Shove all the responsibility onto Corbyn and let the country rant and rail at him when it all goes wrong.

Seriously, roses.
Are you going to ask her?

Maizie, do you think that's why May called the election, because she had no idea what to do next and had backed herself into a corner, along with the three Brexiteers?

There are so many speculative theories flying around, dj, all quite convincing

A very early one was that she deliberately choose the three Breixteers to make a mess of it (so we could really stop in).. but she seems to be doing it all on her own now.

And this inept election campaign. Is she really running it or is it her eminences gris who are stuffing it up for her? Do you think she's deliberately trying to lose it?

It's certainly developing more interestingly than expected.

(sorry, haven't really answered your question...)

It is certainly not the first time in the last couple of weeks that I have heard that theory about TM. Is she truly out of her depth or absolutely certain about herself ?

That'll do, Maizie, until our insider tells us the rest.

Hope Corbyn's up for to it. Perhaps rather more than he'd bargained for?

Being PM is a poisoned chalice at the best of times....and this isn't the best of times. Still, they are all eager for the job, whichever party they represent.

What rubbish some of you post on here if she called this election to lose why did she bother becoming PM in the first place.

I think they are just amusing themselves ninny not a serious topic.

Ambition, ninny.

Something I read recently said that she'd been after the top job for a number of years. She likes to be in control.

I'm afraid I don't find May at all amusing, roses.

Another problem for Mayhem's Brexit policy, and no deal is better than a bad deal.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/27/eu-theresa-may-combat-terror-brexit-europol

Are you serious, we are in this position because of free movement, we don't know who's here, well we do, 23,000 that want to kill us for a start.

What a shame, then, that the Tories have been busy cutting the services which might have helped to protect us

But you do seem to scare easily, Luckylegs

I see security chiefs as well as people like that well known Tory Dominic Grieve is strongly advising May to keep "crucial" links with the EU.
There must be continued full participation in European Union security and intelligence cooperation in the critical fight against terrorism after Brexit.

Even if this means accepting or continuing with EU rules and judicial oversight for the ECJ. This couldn't be more crucial.

This will be hard fought be the loony right of course who will risk anything including our lives in order to have a complete break.

"23,000 that want to kill us for a start."
Bit of an exaggeration. That is just the number assumed to be on MI5's list, it includes Animal rights people and half the Labour party:-)

Oh, perleeeaase! We always did govern ourselves. May's article 50 white paper even said that.
MaizieD I suggest you read the decision in

R (Factortame Ltd) v Secretary of State for Transport

On www.wemove.eu there is a survey about what you want from the Brexit negotiations, in case anyone wants to fill it in.

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We don't need to leave the EU to limit immigration from countries, who allegedly "want to kill us".

Interesting that people want to limit immigration from non-EU countries rather than EU countries. The UK has always been in control of the numbers from non-EU countries!

blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/non-eu-migration-is-what-uk-voters-care-most-about/?utm_content=buffer74aea&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Also surely the Manchester bombing was born here

I see May in her "re-launch" is still trying to sound strong by continuing with the mantra "No deal is better than a bad deal"

So I wondered what that actually meant in practice as May does not seem able to expand on exactly what that would mean for us all in the UK.

(Did a bit of reading and most of the following is taken from a book by Ian Dunc. I have mentioned him before)

Let's go forward to
01/04/19

The Brexit talks have been a disaster and Britain finds itself out of the EU on 1/4/19, without securing continued membership of the single market, it does not even have access. Britain is also out of the treaty which waives tax on imports and exports.
We have no trade deals with Europe or anyone else. We are on our own.

Every single movement between the UK and the EU will have to be checked for paperwork and content. Every single lorry will be stopped by Customs.

Up until yesterday, 31/3/19 - we enjoyed a seamless trading relationship with the EU. All standards and paperwork were recognised bybEirope and visa-versa.
Lorries will be stopped and goods sampling carried out. Everything will have to be assessed. This will take several days during which time the lorry will be barred from entering the European market place.

So for goods detained and waiting entry, perhaps it won't be such a bad thing as the bottleneck begins to stretch along the M20, but for foodstuffs like any animal products, the more is severe, as they can only enter Europe through specially designated inspection points. None exist at the moment between the UK and Europe. Westminster demand that the EU set up these immediately, but they have little leverage with Europe after the disastrous talks. Food starts to rot. The British food export collapses over night.

The problem is not restricted to goods heading to Europe.
The EU has mutual recognition agreements with Australia, Canada, Israel, Japan, New Zealand and USA, mimicking the bureaucratic free trade with the Continent. Up until yesterday, British goods sold to these countries have been verified by the EU accreditation. Now all will be stopped, sampled and checked.