A Labour Government.

Conservatives slash election projections as Corbyn surge in polls continues

Only down from 200 to 80 so a very long way to go but at least there is cut-through.

"Might have to be a couple of people taken out and shot," said a conservative MP. I wonder if we'll find out who it was.

Isn't it funny how the right wing posters feel the need to pat each other on the back regularly? The rest of us just post and discuss, but they feel they must congratulate each other. Something to do with a lack of substance, or an underlying doubt?

The rest of you trisher seem to think it's OK to be rude as well as 'posting and duwscussing'. What's that to do with then?

I always had the impression it was the left-wing brigade who congratulated each other and were terribly chummy and on first name terms...

Whatifery yet again.

I think it could be underlying lack of substance trisher, as in none provided by the party they are praising. It's quite difficult to wax lyrical about cuts to the NHS, Police, schools, benefits (so extreme people have died) and ... well need I go on.

If you think about it it's a bit like singing the praises of the tooth fairy or Santa Clause. If the party really was the one they wish it was - how lovely it would be but sadly it is a cruel and dictatorial one. The Theresa May Party soon to be superseded by the Conservative Party with allegiance changing overnight.

Ridiculous comment again, Ana. We all know each other by the same names.

That was what people remembered, wasn't it, GracesGran, what the Labour party would do for them, and what the Tories would stop doing.
No wonder they are losing support.

It was even more obvious when you and Annie were 'friends' durhamjen, don't you remember?

An ideal Labour cabinet ( just day dreaming), no specific posts:
Ed Balls, Yvette Cooper, Alan Johnson, Ed and David Milliband, John Smith, even John Prescott, and Neil Kinnock.
And who was that fiery TU leader who died last year? Also my favourite - Jack Ashley, also no longer here.
All strong characters in their own way.
The current ones seem colourless in comparison.

John Smith isn't here, either, or did you forget?

Can you have Bob Crow in a Labour cabinet?

If you are having Bob Crow, I want Tony Benn.

May I correct Ana? When I thought we were friends, I was too dumb to realise I was just useful in supporting Corbyn at the time. Once I posted I had been mistaken about him , bang

Do you think Dennis Skinner would want to join your cabinet, TriciaF?

I want Gordon Brown to add to your list please TriciaF . Oh I can think,of so many now, genuine labour and so loyal to the party, no big guns now sadly

Graces, I can assure you I am with reality. Saluting troops, ie wearing a poppy, saying they do a good job defending our country. Diane has just announced, regarding the IRA, yes I did support them 34 years ago. but then I had an Afro haircut, I have changed my views and my hairstyle. What a stupid comment. We all change our style, but our views shape us, we either believe in the democratic system or using brute force and intimidation to get what we want.. I suppose she and Corbyn would advocate counselling for Isis, they are away with the fairies.That is reality.

Amber Rudd said she'd changed her hairstyle but not her views in 34 years.
She was a teenager then.
That's a stupid comment.
At least Diane abbott was nearly 30.
Are you saying there are only two views that matter, democracy or brute force?
Perhaps you ought to look at what Corbyn said to Peston today about IS. It would surprise you.

Diane Abbott is scary full stop. I find her quite alarming.
Ana apparently she is OK these days - she says she has changed her ideas along with her hairstyle; she no longer has the Afro hairstyle she sported 30 years ago. So everything's OK, relax.
Although I wouldn't trust her near my head with her hair straighteners. Or as Home Secretary.

www.thecanary.co/2017/05/28/watch-corbyn-obliterate-weeks-worth-smears-one-simple-point-democracy/

Corbyn on anti-terrorism laws.
Amnesty agree with him, as do Liberty.

This is democracy.

No rar you are against him and the Labour Party

I think rosesarered's post was very reasonable and she doesn't says she is against the Labour Party - just the present leader and some of his closest in his Shadow Cabinet.

There are many people who feel like that who would normally always vote Labour (and may probably still do so as it would be anathema for them to vote otherwise - or spoil their paper). I think anniebach says she has found that when she has been campaigning.
I have heard many people say that they normally vote Labour BUT don't know which way to vote this time because of Corbyn - and more especially McDonnell.

Campaigning here in the midlands is going well, with a sea change this weekend - people approaching the campaign team spontaneously to say they will be voting labour because they like what Jeremy Corbyn is saying. We are a marginal constituency so please god we can win it back from the totally useless conservative MP who was parachuted in in 2015 and hasn't a clue about local issues (but likes to tell us what we should be concerned about here - funny, since she didn't know where this was before 2015 and clearly has no intention of ever living here )

I would add, though, that the people I refer to are not members of the Labour party but Labour voters - always, no wavering, until now.

I must say, though, that it comes to something when you have to include politicians and union leaders who have died in an 'ideal cabinet' - are there not enough to choose from amongst the present Labour party then?

superfluous thoughs in that post

it's late.

I campaigned against the death penalty when in my teens, haven't changed my mind.

What I question is a woman who was supporting bombing and shooting when she was thirty three , this was three years after the Brighton bombing

No Luckylegs, it isn't a reality. If you don't want to vote for him, fine but why make ridiculous claims that are not based on fact. No one has advocated counselling for Isis.