Oops! She's done it again!

Rigby46 - so calling another woman a 'cow' is just 'a mild form of abuse' and okay in your opinion. Would you be happy for your dds and dgs being called 'cows'?

Actually Daphnedil calling Esther McVey a cow I suppose is rather better than finding it OK to find it amusing to repeat "Why aren't we lynching the bitch" but that is John McDonnell for you.

'Mr Joker' and a 'kinder politics' My Arse.

Again, agreed Rigsby, but that still does not make it right to call any woman a cow. The old saying: 2 wrongs don't make a right.

And you don't need to use words like cow to be abusive - there were some pretty disgusting thinks said about DA on the various threads about her without so called words of abuse being used

And cow was not threatening - the abuse of DA was

There are degrees of abuse - cow is pretty mild IMO

Definitely not Rigsby. There is no justification for calling any woman, who is in the public domain, anything derogatory at all. By anyone. End of.

Do you honestly think calling EM a 'cow' comes anywhere near what DA has endured? It's not OK but it's on a totally different level - DA's abuse included references to anal sex, her genitalia, her ugliness, her fatness and of course her colour.

I do respect that Penstemon , very much so. I admire Diane Abbott very much for all that she has achieved in life. That's why, having read the vile things that have been said about her on social media, I'm stunned that a contributor to GN would then think it appropriate to post that Esther McVey is a cow and to question whether she's human. Is it acceptable because you agree with one politician, but not the other? Social media abuse is abhorrent and unacceptable no matter what the political leanings; the colour of skin or gender of the victim are. A new low has been reached on GN tonight, irrespective of whether you like, or dislike, Esther McVey.

I will say that I am not a blind fan of Diane Abbott the labour politician, even as a labour supporter I have found her responses over the years difficult for me on occasions. However as as a woman who has 'made it' in politics against the odds I have huge respect. Nobody deserves the level of abuse that has been heaped on her. She has huge stamina and is a clever and resilient woman. You have to respect that.

I thought the same thing MotherHubbard. There has been very justified anger and disgust shown regarding the abuse hurled at Diane Abbott. But for some reason, it's deemed to be OK to call Esther McVey a cow on this forum. It's not. It's abuse. Just because you agree with the political stance of one woman, but not the other, does that make it acceptable to call her names and suggest that's she's "not human". Such hypocrisy and double standards from women who are supposed to be socially and politically aware.

Daphnedill - but on another thread it's okay for you to call Esther McVey ' a cow'?

Did you see about the people who were buying up the DM and Suns in various shops and setting fire to them.
I'd love to have enough money to be able to do that!

mostlyharmless I'm not going to click, but I can imagine what they're like. The Mail Online comments depress me, because they make me realise that I have very little in common with a substantial group of people living in the UK.

I expect some Gransnetters will think I'm intolerant. Frankly, I don't have a problem with being intolerant of such bigots.

I noticed jalima. I expect others did too.

The mail online has got two articles about her with very unflattering photos today. Repeating the car crash Interviews line of course and then there are three thousand comments! The first comments I looked at were very unpleasant. Repulsively racist and sexist. Surely the Mail should be monitoring the comments and removing abusive ones?

I won't give the link here as my journalist son-in-law would say don't click on the mail online as it boosts their advertising revenue.

I've already said what I think
More than once.

I agree with Penstemmon. In the past, I've stated that I do . not believe in unconditional free speech and I have alluded to the kind of vile abuse some people get on Twitter and Facebook. I've been hesitant to post actual quotes in case I offended anybody.

I've been shouted down by others who claim that people don't have the right not to be offended. I've had the impression that some posters really don't believe how vile some abuse is, so I'm glad people have now seen the racism and sexism directed at DA.

Then maybe they ought to be allowed to look at it now, instead of it being hidden.
The reason I put it on was because people were being nasty about Diane Abbott. Do you think that is acceptable?

Yes, I have seen the raw and ugly truth over the years but perhaps others have not.

Jalima if someone had said to you people have sent abusive tweets to DA would you have imagined that sort of depravity? I would not. Sometimes we need to see the raw and ugly truth to fully appreciate its impact on people. I hate seeing war photos but sometimes I do look because I cannot allow myself to pretend 'it's not that bad'. It is.

I'm not a Jack Munroe devotee
Me neither and I do question the moral value and thought processes behind re-tweeting (or blogging) these vile tweets - surely it is enough to make people aware of the offensiveness of them without spreading them further around the internet and thus making it more difficult still for them to be removed?

She is poorly. Give the woman a break! Hope you are feeling better soon Diane

Back on track;

labourlist.org/2017/06/polly-billington-the-shame-of-those-who-doubt-the-truth-of-diane-abbotts-illness/

Absolutely nothing, Tegan. A classic case of deflection.