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Why the reluctance to answer questions and face the real electorate ?

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James2451 Fri 02-Jun-17 12:14:20

This morning Teresa May had an opportunity to speak on Woman's Hour, just a few days after criticising Jeremy Corbyn's performance in the programme. Yet once again she has hopped out of any real discussions on her uncosted policies and previous statements.

We must have all seen her reluctance to have a face to face with the electorate as she crosses the Country, the majority are staged photo events with her own faithful. I have not as yet seen any interview with journalists where she has fully answered the questions put to her.
Is she really expecting the electorate to give her their vote to negotiate in Europe and most of all to run this Country when she is deliberately being so evasive in having face to face discussions the way Corby has done? Before the election I did not think I would ever vote for Corbyn but now May is changing my views.

Rather than have tribal type responses can we please have constructive analyse of the likely real reason for her reluctant attitudes.

Anniebach Sat 03-Jun-17 11:49:23

I expect canteens giving free meals will spring up in every town and city .

A&E will no longer be packed with alcoholics saving the NHS millions, alcohol and drug rehabilitation centres will mushroom overnight, there will be no homeless some of whom have to be taken to A&E for trestment.

Ana Sat 03-Jun-17 11:40:37

I'm not even going to ask how.

daphnedill Sat 03-Jun-17 11:25:15

It might minimise the need for them.

Ana Sat 03-Jun-17 11:16:02

Do you really think a Labour government would abolish food banks? Dream on.

CeliaVL Sat 03-Jun-17 11:05:43

Rosesarered: Why do you think the General Election is about personalities? You May think Theresa May is more Prime Minister material than Jeremy Corbyn, but what about the policies? Do you want more of the same - food banks, millions of families living in semi-poverty and having to claim benefits despite working hard, a failing NHS, our grandchildren having to choose between a university education or years of crippling debt - or do you want something different? A Labour Government is not simply Jeremy Corbyn, it would be a Parliament that represents millions of people who want a better life for everyone, not just for the rich.

durhamjen Sat 03-Jun-17 11:01:41

Brilliant, Celia.
One more skwawkbox before I go.

skwawkbox.org/2017/06/02/corbynwins-then-goes-on-the-attack-over-dementiatax-ge17/

whitewave Sat 03-Jun-17 10:57:36

Oh! And they are supporting Corbyn in the election, which I find heartwarming as they have been quite look warm about him in the past.

CeliaVL Sat 03-Jun-17 10:56:34

This seems to me to be a fair summary of Theresa May's performance on Question Time:

- We demand that companies and the wealthy should have rock bottom tax rates because (and we won't budge on this) we absolutely insist on having terrible public services, nowhere for young people to live etc.
- We want the most aggressive leader we can find and - because we're GREAT BRITAIN, dammit - if we want to blow the world up we can, and we will, and no-one's going to stop us.
And furthermore:
- As a point of unbreakable principle, we refuse to take part in any concerted action with other European countries, even when we (theoretically) agree with them about whatever it is.

whitewave Sat 03-Jun-17 10:55:07

Got mine - it gets delivered

durhamjen Sat 03-Jun-17 10:52:24

This is from an article by John Harris in the Guardian.

'This is part of the reason the Conservative campaign has unravelled. Before the advent of social media, politicians could teeter on the brink of absurdity and repeatedly fall the wrong way, safe in the knowledge that we all had to wait for the next helping of Spitting Image or edition of Private Eye for their bubble to be burst. Now it happens instantaneously. Moreover, for all its flaws, the Facebook age is egalitarian in spirit. Woe betide the politician who will not turn up to the debate, or who seems to have an aversion to meeting the public.

In the midst of all this, what can politicians do? Be yourself. Do not dissemble. Forget the old idea that if you endlessly parrot the same lines, you can be sure that most people will see the message only once or twice: the likelihood is that the parroting will be edited into a 20-second video clip, and you will be rendered absurd. Treat the orthodox media’s rituals with a gentle mockery, which chimes with how most people feel about them.'

This is why May's soundbites don't work this time.
Off to buy my Guardian now.

GracesGranMK2 Sat 03-Jun-17 10:34:48

You are so right whitewave. IDS was trying to get in the fake news of a Garden Tax this morning but for once the BBC shot him down - how low will the Tories go.

We know about Corbyn and if you're are a warmonger you will probably not agree with him but if you want the world to be a better place you might.

whitewave Sat 03-Jun-17 10:28:11

rose believe me if there was anything to dig up about Corbyn it would have been dug months ago with knobs on. The gutter press will do anything and pay anyone including hacking phones to get what they want for their perverted agenda.

rosesarered Sat 03-Jun-17 10:07:34

I agree that it may not change all that many views in itself ( the debate from York) and I think it will spark journalists.....also into looking at Corbyns rebellious past, the company and friends he had, and at his anti-nuclear stance.All these things were just about (!) acceptable as a back bencher, but not for a PM.

GracesGranMK2 Sat 03-Jun-17 10:00:51

Yes Dimbleby did hang on didn't he.

I don't think last night will change many views. My hope is that it will spark the journalists into asking questions about the history of this Conservative government. May got away with all the talk being about May for the first few weeks and the LP then got ahead by talking about how parties affect our lives - more important than anything else to the majority.

When she saw May being May was actually a negative she tried to make it all about Brexit. She is on very shaky ground on the Conservative record but she was part of that government; she will have agreed to those decisions. Hopefully that is what we can talk about now.

rosesarered Sat 03-Jun-17 09:57:25

So trisher you are heavily biased and will not believe anyone ( myself or ww) who tries hard to be objective when watching a debate. If you notice, I don't say all good things about the Conservatives, but am honest and say they have run a poor campaign and produced an unpopular manifesto.T May is socially awkward as claimed when speaking to members of the public, but does her best (Brown was the same) it doesn't make them bad politicians though.Easy charm with Joe Public doesn't always translate to good rule.
I have no confidence in J Corbyn as leader ( along with about 165 Labour MP's)
Which is why I have to vote this time for T May and the Conservatives to lead us.

whitewave Sat 03-Jun-17 09:56:00

tegan and me. It will be a disaster.

Look what is ahead.

Evil cuts, threat to the NHS and a hard Brexit.

We know that the economy is beginning to tank. The Brexit chickens are beginning to come home to roost just as we said they would and were derided for saying so.

Lazigirl Sat 03-Jun-17 09:52:31

The stars of the show last night were clearly some of the audience previously referred to, the partial sighted girl who said she had mental health issues and the girl who said she couldn't believe the obsession with killing. Teacher and nurse were good too speaking from the coal face as they say. May couldn't relate to them and patronised by using her new mantra "money tree". This must have replace S & S. I thought Boris Johnson behaved appallingly with Emily Maitliss on News Night later.

Tegan2 Sat 03-Jun-17 09:52:14

Someone on another forum pointed out a that everything must be taken in the context of the time in which it happened, which is why it's pointless clawing through the past and bringing up questions about that time. The fact is the Conservatives have a councillor [?] who was an active member of the IRA and condoned violence in every shape and form [very little mention of that anywhere]. And arguably the greatest Tory leader ever supported non other than General Pinochet.The issues facing us are those of people not being able to train as nurses because of bursaries/affordable homes not being built [another Tory uturn I believe]/police cuts [and rumours of parts of the force being privatised, but I can't back that up]/schools that can't afford textbooks [someone I know is, today, trawling the internet trying to buy with her own money books for her pupils because the school can't afford them].If Theresa may gets a huge majority next week I honestly believe that, in 5 years time we will not recognise the country in which we now live; and it terrifies me. It terrifies me far more than the thought of having a PM who has always been committed to multilateral nuclear disarmament and is prepared to work towards that goal....

trisher Sat 03-Jun-17 09:46:09

I could have rar. I could also have pretended I was being objective, but I was brought up to be honest.

durhamjen Sat 03-Jun-17 09:45:57

skwawkbox.org/2017/06/02/9-tories-of-120-bbcqt-audience-ask-29-of-questions-still-corbynwins-ge17/

Rigby, to read along with the DM and T and Tel, etc.

durhamjen Sat 03-Jun-17 09:35:38

I was longing for someone to ask May how much of a payrise she had had since 2009.
I liked that girl's response, too.
I think Corbyn just dismissed the redfaced warmonger because he had already answered that question politely a couple of times, and wanted Dimbleby to move on.

By the way, if anyone wants any left wing media reports on it, don't forget Gove has recommended skwawkbox and the Canary.

rosesarered Sat 03-Jun-17 09:34:59

Yes, you're right trisher you are not at all objective......you could have tried to be!

whitewave Sat 03-Jun-17 09:34:09

No it doesn't because it was an act and an obvious one -she was trying too hard, her words said one thing but her poor body language was said another. She was way out of her comfort zone.

Corbyn is consistently challenged on his views that is why the manifesto has proven so robust and well costed.
May avoids all challenges and thinks a woolly manifesto without a single costing will fool the voter. If/when she gets in she will see it as a blank cheque. I hope that you won't regret your vote.

I disagree that "unpopular" cuts are the right thing to do, there was always an alternative, and in fact that alternative had been set up at the end of the last Labour Government and was proving successful with growth once again. The evil Tories stopped it dead in its tracks. Rather taking away from the poor and rewarding the very people who had caused the disaster in the first place.

trisher Sat 03-Jun-17 09:30:32

I'm not objective and I don't believe anyone is.
May didn't know about nurses' pay and failed miserably to understand or offer anything to the woman who asked. She also apologised to the partially sighted girl with mental health problems but didn't recognise her responsibility. She looked like a rabbit in the headlights.
Corbyn was asked such stupid questions. Loved the girl who simply said 'I can't believe that you want to discuss killing millions of people" or something similar. If the only thing you can criticise about someone is his links with a movement that has been dormant for 17 years and the possibility of an unlikely if not impossible nuclear attack it means his policies must be fantastic

Ginny42 Sat 03-Jun-17 09:29:14

I'm very concerned about Brexit Roses, and that's just one reason why I've voted Labour.