London.....Incidents at London Bridge, Borough Market and Vauxhall.

Oh, back-up's arrived! I'm sure whitewave doesn't need it, GGMk2.

Perhaps whitewave's just overwhelmed by all the political stuff she's been immersing herself in recently...

Are you in attack mode again Ana?

I'm evidently not ordinary.

Everything they touch seems to have an air of lunacy about it

Oh dear - faith schools - they are so obviously the wrong way to go, but it looks as if the government are set on more faith "free" schools. It seems totally mad to me. I cannot imagine why they are so set on this.

He may just be a mad man

"Reports suggest a man attacked a police officer with a hammer and was later shot"

'gunshots at Notre Dame cathedral'

Something going on in Paris

I know.

ww absolutely not - your post was quite quite clear. The problem is that many people read the word 'political' and think it means 'party political'

rigby oh yes I should have made it clear that I wasn't talking Party political.

Elegran I haven't a clue what you're on about

Nothing is acceptable to all ideologies and political stances, that's why a variety of those things exist.

It's a pity that people aren't more discerning in their use of 'political'and 'party political'

Perhaps whitewave's just overwhelmed by all the political stuff she's been immersing herself in recently...

So abhorrence of ham is a political stance, not evidence of a possible religious affiliation? That is not to say, however, that it is part of a party political stance in favour of one or other of the two parties currently battling it out for a power at Westminster, which is what almost all the political barneys debates on GN are about at the moment.

Most ordinary people also regard "political" as referring to party politics.

Elegran
I was reading a piece by Nazir Afzal this morning, he's not very complimentary about Imams, not that they might be spouting hate but that they are completely out of touch with young Muslim men.

Where did you read/hear that?

I didn't have to listen to it!! That is the point. What I am arguing is that all arguments, statements, ideological stances etc are political. That is not necessarily a pejorative remark it is simply a fact.

My wrist! Though it would be a risk to recommend it to some closed minds of my acquaintance.

I shall tell you what I had for my lunch today. It was a lovely ham sandwich, very tasty and nutritious, with sliced tomato. I would recommend it!

Oh! sorry, that was a politicial statement! Recommending a ham sandwich as a tasty and nutritious lunch would not be acceptable to ideologies like vegetarianism or veganism, and definitely not to the Jewish community. Slap my risk for mentioning it.

WW

You didn't watch it did you!

You are making personal comments that are not related to my post.

I will ask again. What points did Lord Carlisle or Nazir Afzal raise that makes you imply their comments were of a political nature , impossible for it not to be?

The question you have to ask pogs is - is what they are postulating acceptable too all ideaologies and political stances. The answer is no. Therefore it is political. That is not saying that their points are invalid or wrong. It is just a fact.

If a lot of radicalisation takes place in prisons, wont longer sentences just give the more time to influence or be influenced by others.