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Who will replace May?

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Rigby46 Fri 09-Jun-17 06:34:38

She can't possibly stay - she's fatally wounded. Boris, Hammond and DD must be plotting as I post. Rudd a no-no, too close to her.

MaizieD Sun 11-Jun-17 12:35:45

As most of you already know, I didn't think this GE really had anything to do with Brexit. I voted the way I did because of the tory threat to state funded public services. I resent my vote being interpreted in any other way.

Nandalot Sun 11-Jun-17 12:29:31

I think a second referendum would give a different result . As DD says there are lots of new young voters but also I think the financial implications are coming home to many who were told we would be quids in leaving. If remainers are accepting of Brexit now it is grudgingly because the EU spokespeople are saying there is no going back so we have to make the best of a bad job.

daphnedill Sun 11-Jun-17 12:18:28

But, nightowl, we've learnt how to deal with those who don't like results. All we have to do is shout "will of the people", "that's democracy" or "we won - you lost -suck it up!"

I could scroll back and learn a few lessons.

daphnedill Sun 11-Jun-17 12:14:41

I don't agree with Warsi. I'm an ardent Remainer, but grudgingly accept it (depends what question pollsters ask). If the whole thing were to be abandoned, I'd be delighted (but would promise not to gloat grin).

Don't forget that there are at least 750,000 new 18 year olds since the referendum and hundreds of thousands of others who didn't vote in the referendum. The result of a second referendum could be very different, even without knowing how the negotiations will pan out.

annsixty Sun 11-Jun-17 12:08:01

We may accept it, we don't have to like it.

nightowl Sun 11-Jun-17 12:07:37

But equally Tegan there are many who voted leave (I'm not one of them) who would be up in arms if there's any suggestion of going back on Brexit. There is no way out of this situation I'm afraid, the country was split almost 50/ 50 and I'm not at all convinced the result would be any different if there was another referendum tomorrow. I think that for every person who might change their vote from leave to remain there might well be another voter changing their vote in the opposite direction.

I have no idea how this can be sorted out, and I don't envy the politicians who have to try. One thing's for sure, the conservatives under Theresa May are not the best ones to do it.

whitewave Sun 11-Jun-17 12:00:13

tegan the tide is changing, many are beginning to recognise this

Tegan2 Sun 11-Jun-17 11:58:51

Why do people keep saying that those who voted remain now accept the situation? I never will. And everyone I know who voted that way feels the same.

Jalima1108 Sun 11-Jun-17 11:32:13

She's another politician I particularly dislike (Soubry), I can't see her having a loyal following.

GracesGranMK2 Sun 11-Jun-17 11:29:19

Baroness Varsi went on to say that, rather than doing a deal with the DUP the Conservatives should be reaching out to the other parties - generally! It could win them votes back if they did but I can't see it.

nightowl Sun 11-Jun-17 11:26:09

If my DD's experience of Soubry is anything to go by I wouldn't trust a word she says, on Brexit or anything else. There is a lot of strong feeling against her in her own constituency due to the fact that she is very good at saying what's expedient at the time.

GracesGranMK2 Sun 11-Jun-17 11:18:03

Not surprised I'm afraid Jen. Sayeeda Warsi is on my local Daily Politics (I'm a bit behind watching the recording) and she is saying that there are two things that came out very strongly from this campaign. One that even those who voted remain now accept we have to go towards leaving the European Union. The second message that came out is that they want that Brexit negotiation to be done much more collaboratively, they want it to be a much softer exit and they want 'us' as political parties to work together.

durhamjen Sun 11-Jun-17 11:16:39

Do you think the Tories are now trying to sabotage themselves?

skwawkbox.org/2017/06/11/badfridayagreement-not-yet-done-tories-issued-wrong-statement-in-error/

daphnedill Sun 11-Jun-17 11:12:05

From a Conservative point of view, I suspect Anna Soubry is too divisive.

durhamjen Sun 11-Jun-17 11:10:03

Survation poll for the DM.

durhamjen Sun 11-Jun-17 11:09:10

Soubry is not on this list.

GracesGranMK2 Sun 11-Jun-17 11:06:12

Anna Soubry has always made sensible comments about Brexit (GN speak for - I like what she says because it agrees with my viewsgrin).

Unfortunately she was followed by Dominic Raab who seems to be bidding for a place in the cabinet to sustain the far-right view of Brexit.

durhamjen Sun 11-Jun-17 10:56:00

Soubry for PM?

Some interesting stuff on this website about the situation - not just this link. Others are worth reading.

www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/blog/how-make-minority-government-work

whitewave Sun 11-Jun-17 10:34:33

Soubry is suggesting that the Tories work with Labour!!!

How the mighty do fall.

Humble pie anyone - it is a bit bitter but soooooo good for you

whitewave Sun 11-Jun-17 10:32:27

Soubry is making the very same case as Corbyn - good to hear agreement about Brexit.

durhamjen Sun 11-Jun-17 10:31:17

Gavin Barwell's record.

'If anything signals Theresa May’s utter failure to make any good decisions, it is the fact that she has replaced her two useless advisors Nick Timothy and Fiona Hill with one who is so bad that – after writing a book on how to win an election in a marginal constituency – he couldn’t win an election in a marginal constituency.

What is his advice going to be worth?

Barwell is the man who – as a housing minister – misdirected the public to believe that Labour had been responsible for the lowest house-building rates since the 1920s. In fact, that nadir was reached by the Conservative-Liberal Democrat Coalition in 2012-13, after George Osborne slashed investment by 60 per cent.

So when Mrs May said of Mr Barwell, “He has been a first-class minister and is widely respected,” she was completely wrong in the first instance and also wrong in the second.
He also used new powers, passed by the Tories, to stop development plans in Bradford, despite those plans having won public approval – because Shipley MP Philip Davies doesn’t like them. The action signalled that the Tories would stop any plan they don’t like – as favours to each other.'

Sounds perfectly suited to Mayhem.

whitewave Sun 11-Jun-17 10:30:20

I bet a lot of Tories complain to the BBC about Marr not mentioning Trident and the IRA grin

On a sticky wicket with that and the DUP though!! Let's hope that nonsense is finally put to bed.

daphnedill Sun 11-Jun-17 10:26:25

Don't forget the airport on an island in the Thames estuary!

I expect the inhabitants of Tuvalu would be amused and delighted to have Boris as ambassador.

durhamjen Sun 11-Jun-17 10:24:40

You will need to enlarge this.

durhamjen Sun 11-Jun-17 10:22:43

Yes, Whitewave. Some people find my views very attractive.

I am watching Peston at the moment. It's strange that everything now is about Ireland, not the UK as a whole.
Is May really going to go ahead with linking up with the DUP, and undoing the whole of the peace process?
How would other EU governments respond if UK asked for more time?
Everyone else is ready.