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Rigby46 Fri 09-Jun-17 07:33:30

Ten DUP MP's calling the shots? I despair.

whitewave Fri 09-Jun-17 15:01:28

Here here dd

daphnedill Fri 09-Jun-17 14:59:31

We've been sold a myth since Alf Roberts' daughter was PM.

daphnedill Fri 09-Jun-17 14:57:16

Corbyn couldn't have bankrupted the country, even if he'd won every single seat in parliament. It's impossible!

I'm going out, so don't have time to explain, but if you Google Ann Pettifor, Steve Keen or Richard Murphy they all explain better than I can anyway.

whitewave Fri 09-Jun-17 14:57:16

It seems to me that the DUP would identify more with Trumps policies than anything else!!! Apparently even Cameron refused to have anything to do with them..

Not fussy who she gets into bed with is she?

Marieeliz Fri 09-Jun-17 14:51:33

Corbyn will not have to do what he promised then.? Lucky for him not having to bankrupt us. Off on the a rocky Mountaineer in BC!,

GillT57 Fri 09-Jun-17 14:34:50

All of this bloody debacle is down to Tory party squabbles and attempts to bring rebels into line. Cameron started this mess with his arrogant ill thought out referendum, and then May got it wrong as well. What a buggersmuddle it all is. Two things did cheer me though; the slow death throes of UKIP and Salmond losing his seat. The House must be like the Tudor court, all plans and plots behind heavy curtains.....BoJo is likely sharpening his knife. As To Anna Soubray, she is one of the few Tories that I like, she tells it like it is, doesnt have a forked tongue like most. She was the one who said that BoJo is the kind of man that she wouldn't get into a taxi with, during the referendum debates, I rather liked her for that.

Rigby46 Fri 09-Jun-17 14:12:02

Yep I know, you couldn't make it up!

whitewave Fri 09-Jun-17 13:55:09

Oh rig is May cosying up,with terrorists? Surely not, that line is usually kept by the Tories to throw at Corbyn. Chickens and roost springs to mind

daphnedill Fri 09-Jun-17 13:54:48

The LibDems have learnt their lesson about coalitions with the Conservatives. They won't touch them, especially with their stance on Brexit.

paddyann Fri 09-Jun-17 13:47:06

anyone taking bets on GE2 /17? Its almost a certainty as far as I can see.Sad to see so much hatred on this site for Alex Salmond a brilliant man who has given most of his life in the best interests of the people of Scotland ....you'd all be very luck to have anyone so hardworking and caring as your MP .With luck and the next GE Alex WILL be back

Rigby46 Fri 09-Jun-17 13:35:23

Links with Loyalist paramilitaries

whitewave Fri 09-Jun-17 13:29:22

What fingers in violence did the DUP have in the past?

Peaseblossom Fri 09-Jun-17 13:21:10

Why didn't they form a government with the Liberal Democrats? The DUP?! God almighty!
"The Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) is the largest unionist political party in Northern Ireland. ... Following on from the St Andrews Agreement in October 2006, the DUP agreed with the Irish republican party Sinn Féin to enter into power-sharing devolved government in Northern Ireland."

AdeleJay Fri 09-Jun-17 12:28:22

It's all very messy. It's the result of total arrogance and the wish to 'sort out' internal wrangling in the Tory party. And the Labour Party is also split. Perhaps they at least can come together now? In an ideal world, they'd have cross party teams for everything but it won't happen as they all think they're right. But I'm strangely hopeful, now the cuts promised won't get through re pupil funding or school lunches. And maybe the NHS won't be privatised further?

devongirl Fri 09-Jun-17 11:53:07

We can only hope, Maizie!

MaizieD Fri 09-Jun-17 11:48:41

Perhaps the Queen will advise her to resign! She's held to be very knowledgeable and experienced in these matters... How many PMs has she seen come and go?

Coco51 Fri 09-Jun-17 11:39:59

That'll be the coalition of chaos May was talking about

Nelliemaggs Fri 09-Jun-17 11:32:19

Mrs May like Mr Cameron, in their privileged smugness, clearly couldn't gauge the mood of the people.
We are still in a mess and I dread the next few years but no more, no less, than before the election unless the result is a softer Brexit.
Labour could have done better but I am happy that all our local MPs increased their majorities for Labour and glad to see Mrs May's smug smile disappear.
I consider myself lucky to live in an area that thinks like I do. I would hate to live elsewhere.
Now to see if she allies herself with the DUP with just an hour to go before her appointment with the Queen.

trisher Fri 09-Jun-17 11:24:08

Eric Pickles (remember him!!!) on TV trying to say TM has a mandate. Talking very slowly and calmly like people do when they are talking to people they think don't understand things.

hildajenniJ Fri 09-Jun-17 11:15:50

All I can say is: "here's a pretty, pretty state of things, here's a how-de-do!

Granny23 Fri 09-Jun-17 10:54:18

DD You raise an interesting question which I have not heard mentioned on the TV. You are correct that under the EVEL rules NI and Scottish MPs have to leave the chamber for debates and votes on England and Wales only legislation. Welsh MPs have to leave when England only legislation is being debated.

Rules brought in by David Cameron immediately after the Scottish Referendum, mainly to put the hems on the (then) 56 SNP MPs.

What does it mean now? The numbers suggest that without the DUP and Scottish Tories, TM will NOT have a majority on English matters e.g. NHS, Social Care, Education, Policing, etc.

What a mess.

Jalima1108 Fri 09-Jun-17 10:50:41

I am very glad that Sturgeon had her wings clipped too and hope that this puts a second independence referendum firmly to bed.
There is enough turmoil as it is without the thought of Scotland leaving the Union.

Jalima1108 Fri 09-Jun-17 10:48:55

DD I think that you and Jalima won with the predictions! Medals all round.
Thanks rosesarered
Have a lovely holiday away from all this!

I don't feel really sorry for Cleggy. Not as sorry as I did for Ed Balls when he lost his seat.
Can't see Clegg on Strictly though.

Pippa000 Fri 09-Jun-17 10:32:45

Oh dear Oh dear, Boris for PM !!!!!!!!

whitewave Fri 09-Jun-17 10:22:39

Sky

Message from Blunket and Ashdown

" never ever put the country in the hands of an Ulsterman"