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Rigby46 Fri 09-Jun-17 07:33:30

Ten DUP MP's calling the shots? I despair.

MaizieD Fri 09-Jun-17 11:48:41

Perhaps the Queen will advise her to resign! She's held to be very knowledgeable and experienced in these matters... How many PMs has she seen come and go?

devongirl Fri 09-Jun-17 11:53:07

We can only hope, Maizie!

AdeleJay Fri 09-Jun-17 12:28:22

It's all very messy. It's the result of total arrogance and the wish to 'sort out' internal wrangling in the Tory party. And the Labour Party is also split. Perhaps they at least can come together now? In an ideal world, they'd have cross party teams for everything but it won't happen as they all think they're right. But I'm strangely hopeful, now the cuts promised won't get through re pupil funding or school lunches. And maybe the NHS won't be privatised further?

Peaseblossom Fri 09-Jun-17 13:21:10

Why didn't they form a government with the Liberal Democrats? The DUP?! God almighty!
"The Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) is the largest unionist political party in Northern Ireland. ... Following on from the St Andrews Agreement in October 2006, the DUP agreed with the Irish republican party Sinn Féin to enter into power-sharing devolved government in Northern Ireland."

whitewave Fri 09-Jun-17 13:29:22

What fingers in violence did the DUP have in the past?

Rigby46 Fri 09-Jun-17 13:35:23

Links with Loyalist paramilitaries

paddyann Fri 09-Jun-17 13:47:06

anyone taking bets on GE2 /17? Its almost a certainty as far as I can see.Sad to see so much hatred on this site for Alex Salmond a brilliant man who has given most of his life in the best interests of the people of Scotland ....you'd all be very luck to have anyone so hardworking and caring as your MP .With luck and the next GE Alex WILL be back

daphnedill Fri 09-Jun-17 13:54:48

The LibDems have learnt their lesson about coalitions with the Conservatives. They won't touch them, especially with their stance on Brexit.

whitewave Fri 09-Jun-17 13:55:09

Oh rig is May cosying up,with terrorists? Surely not, that line is usually kept by the Tories to throw at Corbyn. Chickens and roost springs to mind

Rigby46 Fri 09-Jun-17 14:12:02

Yep I know, you couldn't make it up!

GillT57 Fri 09-Jun-17 14:34:50

All of this bloody debacle is down to Tory party squabbles and attempts to bring rebels into line. Cameron started this mess with his arrogant ill thought out referendum, and then May got it wrong as well. What a buggersmuddle it all is. Two things did cheer me though; the slow death throes of UKIP and Salmond losing his seat. The House must be like the Tudor court, all plans and plots behind heavy curtains.....BoJo is likely sharpening his knife. As To Anna Soubray, she is one of the few Tories that I like, she tells it like it is, doesnt have a forked tongue like most. She was the one who said that BoJo is the kind of man that she wouldn't get into a taxi with, during the referendum debates, I rather liked her for that.

Marieeliz Fri 09-Jun-17 14:51:33

Corbyn will not have to do what he promised then.? Lucky for him not having to bankrupt us. Off on the a rocky Mountaineer in BC!,

whitewave Fri 09-Jun-17 14:57:16

It seems to me that the DUP would identify more with Trumps policies than anything else!!! Apparently even Cameron refused to have anything to do with them..

Not fussy who she gets into bed with is she?

daphnedill Fri 09-Jun-17 14:57:16

Corbyn couldn't have bankrupted the country, even if he'd won every single seat in parliament. It's impossible!

I'm going out, so don't have time to explain, but if you Google Ann Pettifor, Steve Keen or Richard Murphy they all explain better than I can anyway.

daphnedill Fri 09-Jun-17 14:59:31

We've been sold a myth since Alf Roberts' daughter was PM.

whitewave Fri 09-Jun-17 15:01:28

Here here dd

whitewave Fri 09-Jun-17 15:09:34

Paddy Ashdown

May is willing to take a side with one side of the sectarian divide - that is a disaster

AlieOxon Fri 09-Jun-17 15:38:14

I prophesy trouble in Ireland.....

joannewton46 Fri 09-Jun-17 15:42:46

If she went, who might we get instead? Amber Rudd? Boris Johnson? Jeremy Hunt? Philip Hammond? G-d help us all!
On a different point, we were given the chance to change our system a few years ago but the majority voted against proportional representation - I thought it was a mistake then and the past 2 elections have merely served to reinforce that view.

devongirl Fri 09-Jun-17 15:59:08

I like the idea of having 2 boxes against each name on the ballot paper (clearly marked, of course).

One: you mark an x if you want that person/party
Two: you mark an x if you don't want that person/party

then the winner has all their nos deducted from their yeses and that's their final vote.

Might be able to avoid tactical voting like this, if you could say who you didn't want...

whitewave Fri 09-Jun-17 16:36:16

Sien faye

whitewave Fri 09-Jun-17 16:39:00

Whoops phone!
Sinn fein

Very unhappy about unionists - said when unionist do a deal with the Tories it always ends in tears

whitewave Fri 09-Jun-17 16:53:31

The more i listen the worse it gets May should definately NOT DO A DEAL with the DUP.

Dyffryn Fri 09-Jun-17 16:59:07

How any voter especially Tory voters can accept a coalition with the DUP Party is beyond me. If I were a Tory voter I would be protesting loudly at a party that can join with a party who is against Gay rights and abortion. We have gone back to the dark ages. It's no wonder the youth of today despair.

whitewave Fri 09-Jun-17 17:06:20

Mumsnet

Suggesting that the Tories may be acting against the Good Friday Agreement because they would be siding with one side.

Sinn fein can complain that the Tories is siding with the DUP.

It ain't going to work