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whitewave Sun 11-Jun-17 10:52:41

Now this really be worth doing!!

Let's start with the QS.

What will be left out/watered down! Not sure how they will explain it away as it's in the manifesto. Probably say something like "Brexit and all it's complications will mean that stuff will have to be shelved"

Fox hunting - out
Triple lock - remains
Social care - out

durhamjen Sun 18-Jun-17 09:19:00

I suppose she is the queen of the DUP as well.

whitewave Sun 18-Jun-17 09:27:59

Going back to that report, I remember reading a few years back about an economic theory on varieties of capitalism. I under stood at the time that British economy was characterised by one type and Europe by another. I sort of stored it in my brain as "fancy that" and haven't really thought any more about it. But blow me if it wasn't outlined on MN. Apparently the European Model is being developed by the Labour Party. Thinking about what is being said by the shadow chancellor etc I can see now where they are coming from.

I will outline it on the Labour thread as it then gives people an idea about Labour economic policy.

Welshwife Sun 18-Jun-17 09:31:49

That is disgusting! The people who caused such an upset with people losing their savings and they are literally earning millions. - no wonder they want to leave the EU so they do not need to publish the figures. It was said at the time that the top bankers - many of whom took risks - would not be the ones to suffer but it would be the working man with modest savings etc.

whitewave Sun 18-Jun-17 11:24:11

Robert Peston on twitter talking to a senior Tory MP

" we all f,,,,,,g hate her, she has totally f,,,,,,,,,ed us""

Oh dear

durhamjen Sun 18-Jun-17 12:46:55

twitter.com/hashtag/ResignTheresaMay?src=hash

Frankie Boyle admiring Theresa May.

MaizieD Sun 18-Jun-17 12:59:50

the only reason that this report has been 'published' is because of EU regulations.

That needs to be constantly reiterated!

Disgusting really. I wonder how much of that money 'trickles down' through the economy and how much leaches out into tax havens?

durhamjen Sun 18-Jun-17 14:47:09

In the meantime....
evolvepolitics.com/plans-reveal-another-hospital-sold-off-tories/

"Charing Cross is thought to be one of five London hospitals that the recent ‘Naylor report’ has claimed could be worth £1bn if sold. This report outlines the upcoming cuts which will see billions of pounds of land, property, and services sold to private firms with links to the government, leaving patients without emergency care."

Nandalot Sun 18-Jun-17 15:58:24

Family silver again. What price patients' lives?

Welshwife Sun 18-Jun-17 16:41:51

What happens to the wards and operations etc - is there spare space at other localise hospitals? It is madness. They have sold so many assets - what happens when everything has gone?

durhamjen Sun 18-Jun-17 16:55:44

We have tp pay to go and see a doctor in a private hospital?

Welshwife Sun 18-Jun-17 16:57:39

They will be able to just work when they want - will 24 hour cover go? This is all hard to comprehend - that any govt would be so stupid!

durhamjen Sun 18-Jun-17 17:00:09

I don't find it hard at all, Welshwife. This is the government that has always wanted to privatise the NHS.

whitewave Sun 18-Jun-17 18:33:13

What I am utterly astounded about is that it appears that people aren't bothered otherwise there would be riots just like the poll tax

Welshwife Sun 18-Jun-17 18:34:45

Maybe as yet not enough people have realised.

whitewave Tue 20-Jun-17 17:08:50

So do we have a viable government or not?

whitewave Tue 20-Jun-17 17:13:32

May are you listening ---- more police needed. May are you listening. May do you care?

Ana Tue 20-Jun-17 17:20:15

QS tomorrow. Perhaps you could just calm down until after that?

durhamjen Tue 20-Jun-17 17:50:51

Has she ever listened, whitewave?
I suppose if we shout loudly enough she might change some things, like the NHS and giving council staff a decent payrise.
She could still be writing bits of it to try and recover a bit of pride.

whitewave Tue 20-Jun-17 18:15:55

Anyone like to take an educated guess as to what the Queen will say tomorrow.

She stands clutching her one piece of paper and reads out.

Brexit means Brexit

Austerity means austerity

Cuts mean cuts

We are friends with climate denying, flat earthers who believe the world started 2000 years ago.

That's all folks.

durhamjen Tue 20-Jun-17 18:18:41

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/20/dup-says-it-cant-be-taken-for-granted-putting-tory-deal-in-doubt

Is there really going to be a Queen's speech tomorrow?
May can't reach an agreement with the DUP.

durhamjen Tue 20-Jun-17 18:20:49

That was less than an hour ago, so it might have changed.
However, there is going to be a landmark courtcase about it if May and the DUP reach an agreement as the Good Friday agreement depends on the government being impartial.
Can't wait for tomorrow.

rosesarered Tue 20-Jun-17 18:28:39

ww you are really getting hot under the collar ( must be the heatwave)
Yes, QS on Wed , there will be a DUP agreement so I have heard, ( why not, as both sides want it.)So back to running the country.....and about time.

whitewave Tue 20-Jun-17 18:32:06

Perhaps Her Maj will take a look and refuse to read out such rubbish.

Anyone got any idea about tax year ending2019 or did I miss that reply?

Ana Tue 20-Jun-17 18:37:41

How do you know it's going to be 'rubbish' whitewave?

Thankfully, the Queen will read whatever the Speech says - goodness she'd probably be hard-pressed to keep a straight face if it was that Corbyn one! grin

Elegran Tue 20-Jun-17 18:39:25

From NHS horses' mouth on NHS property sales.

www.digital.nhs.uk/article/6671/Figures-on-surplus-land-in-NHS-estate-published
"NHS Surplus Land 2016/17 is based on data from all NHS trusts in England, including ambulance trusts, and reflects the position as at March 31, 2017"^

Links to report tables referred to in above article.
www.content.digital.nhs.uk/catalogue/PUB23972

Statement by NHS Property Services "The decision as to whether one of our properties is surplus to NHS operational requirements resides with the commissioners, i.e. NHS England or a clinical commissioning group (CCG). A property will only be released for disposal by NHS Property Services once commissioners have confirmed that it is no longer required for the delivery of NHS services."

www.property.nhs.uk/what-we-do/disposals/
(Contains link to list of freehold and long leasehold properties they have sold and properties which have been declared by commissioners to be surplus to NHS operational requirements and which they therefore plan to dispose of during 2017/18.)

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