DUP negotiations

And, yes, of course this deal is a sign of weakness. So what? Only weak governments have to make such deals to get through legislation they want to get through. Like the Tory/LibDem coalition did.

Politics always involves money or money equivalents.

sorry for sentence construction mistakes

MPs of all parties have to work with lots of people to whom their views are opposed, such as large numbers of their constituents. What the NI MPs think on gay marriage and abortion is not relevant to the rest of the UK where better laws than NI has are already in place.

Did they offer them large amounts of cash, roses?

I was thinking more of cash tributes to Rome and the Danegeld, maiz



I hope I wouldn't find it acceptable in any party. It's corrupt and, to me, a sign of weakness as well as a total lack of integrity.

I am ashamed of my fellow countrypeople who approve of this.

Labour held talks with the DUP in 2010 and again in 2015 !

Baggs I agree ( but some never will)

Would those finding the bribe the offensive bit find a similar hypothetical deal between,say, Corbyn's Labour and Another Party as bad? Or would it be excusable because one wanted one or both of those parties in power?

I was thinking more of cash tributes to Rome and the Danegeld, maiz, but, yes, I take your point.

No-one is blaming the DUP radical of course they'll fight for themselves -who would expect them to care about anyone or anything that didn't suit their own best interests? But this government is supposed to be the UK government and many of us bitterly blame them for their unprincipled, corrupt undemocratic behaviour

Good reasons? Oh yes, keep the provos out of the news and fairly inactive. Terrorists win.

Agree with all your main points Gill and am not naive but since this is a phrase I 've never come across I wonder about its source. I have simply asked politely about its precise meaning.

I think that radical was throwing in a red herring about overseas aid in a vain and hopeless attempt to deflect the venom from the DUP vote purchase. Now, back to the real world; I strongly object to my taxes being used to fund this house of cards. Even as a bystander, I can see disaster looming, does TM really think that she will now have a majority? Really think that she will have the support of ALL of her party? I think not. What about gay MPs? I don't think for one minute they will be willing to stand shoulder to shoulder with people who think they are wicked and evil. How many women MPs support the right to choose? Most of them I would hope, so they won't be there with the DUP either. This is a desperate, disgusting attempt to hold on to power at any price and those who keep twittering on about Corbyn being worse; you really need to take a good look at yourselves. This is not about who is in government, it is about how they are trying to stay there after the stupid irresponsible general election.

Although l grasped the gist of the post I'd really like to ask radical to explain that specific phrase.

Inishowen, I also live in Northern Ireland. There is no way I'm getting involved in this discussion either.
I'll just say that Northern Ireland politics are very different to that on the mainland.
A definite throwback to our many troubled years.

I don't have as much problem with the fact that there is background manoeuvring between parties over voting - I am sure that has always happened - as I do over the bribe, which is what it is; and with who is in receipt of it.

I think you can always judge someone by the company they keep.

Who amongst us would be happy in the company of the DUP? Except May and cronies of course.

It's the 'Blimey spending money on ur ouw people' [sic] that's the give away mcem - sort of reminiscent of Britain First

^ Governments are always making deals like this and always have. It's a political fact of life.^

With large sums of money attached, Baggs?

As I recall 'deals' are more usually made on promises of support for the minority party in the deal's pet project.

Sorry I didn't understand the reference to 'African Spice Girls'. Would you mind explaining please?

Have you considered a name change radicalnan?

No one is arguing that it isn't a polical deal, and it is logical to team up with the only Party likely to want an alliance, or whatever they want to call it.

In fact it's all that the Conservatives can do if they want to remain in power.

It's the fact that it's a house of cards that could topple at any time and the affiliation fee being paid.

Blimey spending money on ur ouw people instead of supporting some African Spice girls, whatever next.

You cannot blame the DUP for doing what is best for their people.

It may also be best for us. The alternative could be Corbyn..........

Yup.

As a sort of aside, might there be good reasons why NI already gets what's seen as "the best deal" amongst the devolved governments? You know, like a lot of extremely serious troubles to deal with and smooth over from its recent history.

NI already gets the best deal of the devolved governments so this extra money is cream on the fancy cake.