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DUP negotiations

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Riverwalk Mon 26-Jun-17 10:01:39

I can't find the thread on this - probably a zombie one by now, they've been going on so long!

It's all gone very quiet - maybe the DUP have again stopped taking phone calls from their 'confidence & supply' partners.

Anyone heard anything?

whitewave Mon 26-Jun-17 10:19:41

Supposed to be near completion.

The rumours are the DUP mainly achieved an economic package.

Including increased capital spending on health and education, granting of special lower corporation tax status, and possible abolition of air passenger duty tax in the region.

Controversial elements include

Military covenant which will promise to give priority f in health, education and housing to children whose parents are in the military.

Can you imagine that being accepted in the mainland?!

Sinn Fein are opposed.

We know that there are many in the Tory party that are absolutely horrified . Patten called the DUP "toxic"

And that the Tory was in danger of becoming known once agin the nasty party. (I would have thought it scored highly on that rating already)

How that all works in with the Barnet formula goodness only knows

Riverwalk Mon 26-Jun-17 11:00:45

Seems Arlene's back in town and an announcement on the deal is to be made today.

whitewave Mon 26-Jun-17 11:06:13

Be interesting how the other countries react

Rigby46 Mon 26-Jun-17 11:08:50

It will all end in tears sooner or later. Our democratic processes are being sold for a handful of silver ( or to be more exact £2bn). The honourable thing to do would have been to form a minority government. When push came to shove, the DUP would have supported TM - why would they not? Now they will continue to threaten and blackmail - everything that TM gives them will have the seeds of destruction within it - others will ask 'why not us?' And quite rightly so.

trisher Mon 26-Jun-17 11:10:39

DUP and Theresa have signed. Deal has been done (and so have we)

whitewave Mon 26-Jun-17 11:11:44

rigby I know. The ridiculous thing is they would have voted with the government anyway.

Blimey we are being governed by a load of lightweights!!

Rigby46 Mon 26-Jun-17 11:20:05

It will just be another nail in her coffin - as if it isn't already well and truly nailed down already.

trisher Mon 26-Jun-17 11:39:12

So it's 1billion and spending power of 1.5billion (whatever that means). What happens to the Good Friday agreement now is the problem.

Rigby46 Mon 26-Jun-17 11:48:26

And what does that mean? And is it new money or money being taken away from - let's think - abortion and family planning services for starters?

whitewave Mon 26-Jun-17 13:16:43

rig well given that we are always being told that cuts are necessary, we can only conclude that the money is being taken from other areas like the NHS.

What price Tory power? Was this in their manifesto? Would this have been voted for. Is it even democratic!

whitewave Mon 26-Jun-17 13:28:21

Remember the hubris about the magic money tree!! What rot.

whitewave Mon 26-Jun-17 13:31:01

Any Welsh or Scottish grans have an opinion?

rosesarered Mon 26-Jun-17 14:42:22

Well, all agreed now between the Government and the DUP.

rosesarered Mon 26-Jun-17 14:43:35

Back to normality for a while, there has been enough insecurity.

whitewave Mon 26-Jun-17 14:50:05

Are you kidding rose?

How can that be normal?

rosesarered Mon 26-Jun-17 14:53:13

How can what be normal?
We have to have a Government and Corbyn just doesn't have the numbers even with all the other groups helping what do you suggest?

Rigby46 Mon 26-Jun-17 15:06:42

Normal? We had an indefensible election which cost £130m. As a result of that election, the government now pays a £1bn bribe to NI. It will cause discord throughout GB and threaten the GFA . What cuts in services will W, S and E have to suffer for better services and lower taxes in NI? And does anyone think that there'll be no rebellious Tory MPs in the next few months?

whitewave Mon 26-Jun-17 15:13:19

A minority government will cause a lot less problems in the long run rather than team up with such a toxic crowd. May needs to show some spine, just as better PMs than her have done in the past.

Rigby46 Mon 26-Jun-17 15:21:52

It would have been cheaper too-grin

devongirl Mon 26-Jun-17 15:22:18

Don't forget the other cost of the election 3 months while the Brexit clock was already ticking so 1/8 of our negotiating time gone.

trisher Mon 26-Jun-17 15:22:30

rar if 'normal' means being held to ransom by 10 DUP MPs whose beliefs most would find objectionable then that's OK. If 'normal' means you can buy democracy that's fine. TM was quite entitled to form a minority government what she isn't entitled to do is sell off democracy for support. Presumable the money came from her personal money tree, oh sorry it will actually come from Scotland, Wales and areas such as the NE. But that's OK isn't it? Better give it to the DUP than spend it on the NHS.

Luckygirl Mon 26-Jun-17 15:32:28

This is a dirty deal - it stinks.

OUR money being used to buy power for one woman.

This is just plain WRONG.

whitewave Mon 26-Jun-17 15:44:31

It is a disgrace.

Democracy is certainly threatened.

Sinn Fein will be quite within their rights to object, as should we all.

Out MPs need to be told

Rigby46 Mon 26-Jun-17 16:35:49

Being prepared to do a deal with the DUP tells you everything, and then some, about the real nature of the Tories. What an irony that AL talks about patriotism when the Tories are firstly about their own individual self interest and secondly, the interests of the party. They cloak themselves in the Union Jack to hide the fact that the interests of the country are nothing to them ( I get the same quest feeling as I do about Lewis Hamilton, tax exile, when he wears the flag after. F1 victory)