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Riverwalk Mon 26-Jun-17 10:01:39

I can't find the thread on this - probably a zombie one by now, they've been going on so long!

It's all gone very quiet - maybe the DUP have again stopped taking phone calls from their 'confidence & supply' partners.

Anyone heard anything?

Baggs Tue 27-Jun-17 11:42:36

That point of view certainly strikes me as logical. Anyone else?

BTW, accepting the logic of an argument doesn't mean you have to like the deal it's talking about.

Baggs Tue 27-Jun-17 11:40:08

Here is a point of view I heard this morning in answer to the insistence from Nicola Sturgeon that Scotland should now get more money from Westminster as well.

There's a big difference between the attitudes of the DUP and the SNP towards the UK government. The DUP has secured its special deal because it is agreeing to support the government in certain areas. The SNP does not and most probably will not offer the UK government support in those areas (nor any others, most likely).

So yes, it's a political deal the government has just made with the DUP. So what's new? Governments are always making deals like this and always have. It's a political fact of life.

MaizieD Tue 27-Jun-17 11:15:14

I'd be delighted to get a view from Northern Ireland. Most of us are just speculating, really.

Morgana Tue 27-Jun-17 10:57:47

Yes please share thoughts about N. Ireland. We will defend u if necessary! !

mcem Tue 27-Jun-17 10:52:10

But inishowen you have a view that we don't have and it might help us understand if you tell us how you see it.

We don't need to know if you're a tory/dup voter but can you tell us if you think NI will benefit greatly or if you're a bit cynical about how this cash will be used? Do you feel that you/your representatives have been bribed?

If you're brave enough to do this I hope others will read your post thoughtfully and not shout it down.

inishowen Tue 27-Jun-17 10:42:42

As someone from Northern Ireland I'm keeping out of this discussion. The longer I've lived here the less I seem to know about politics.

NannyMcPhU Tue 27-Jun-17 10:34:11

I'm supposed to be preparing a speech for tomorrow. Better get on with it.

You make him sound sound like an ingredient Rigby46 wink

Rigby46 Tue 27-Jun-17 10:11:28

I love Chomsky

whitewave Tue 27-Jun-17 10:08:16

I am suppose to be hoovering and steaming the floors!!!!! Tut tut

whitewave Tue 27-Jun-17 10:07:44

Thanks

NannyMcPhU Tue 27-Jun-17 10:06:24

OK whitewave I won't make you prove your point grin

NannyMcPhU Tue 27-Jun-17 10:05:23

But that wasn't the issue with using 'half-wits' was it?

whitewave Tue 27-Jun-17 10:05:17

grin well blush!!!!!

NannyMcPhU Tue 27-Jun-17 10:04:30

I'm not above the odd expletive either, and I bet I know more than most!

whitewave Tue 27-Jun-17 10:02:56

Yes I know exactly where you are coming from. But you can't assume etcsmile

The most intelligent amongst us will resort to the use of expletive if pushed.

NannyMcPhU Tue 27-Jun-17 09:49:23

I'm not saying I agree with his language acquisition theories 100% whitewave but I do believe that higher level language skills are important or essential in developing higher level thinking. A prime example of this is Trump with his 'not good' level of tweets.

But we digress.

whitewave Tue 27-Jun-17 09:42:36

Oh Chomsky - blimey a blast from the pastgrin

Yes but in the heat of a moment.

NannyMcPhU Tue 27-Jun-17 09:39:37

There are a plethora of adjectives available to use which are less pejorative whirewave. Like Chomsky I'm interested in the psychology of language and thought.

whitewave Tue 27-Jun-17 09:30:59

I think to be fair nanny people are so fearful, worried, frustrated or just plain furious over where this government is taking us, so there is bound to be the odd bit of colourful language simply through sheer frustration at times.

NannyMcPhU Tue 27-Jun-17 09:28:21

Although I voted to remain, I think your use of the word 'half-wits' is rude and uncalled for Smithy.

whitewave Tue 27-Jun-17 09:23:41

The monies represent a 2% increase on top of any parsimony the Tories are willing to throw at the NHS.

But NO!!

Much better spent on our corrupt selves. We have the power and we are going to use it!

Smithy Tue 27-Jun-17 09:11:01

What a pity we can't time travel back to the day before the EU referendum - maybe all the halfwits who voted to leave would then vote to stay having seen the mess it would cause!

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mcem Tue 27-Jun-17 09:01:37

I accept (but don't understand why) people will vote Tory - that's democracy!
What I can't accept is that any reasonable person can condone the utter immorality of this deal.
Are you really prepared to accept their vile philosophy and the 'principle' that's ok to buy votes like this?
Not a rant but a question asked in genuine puzzlement and despair.

whitewave Tue 27-Jun-17 07:57:45

Some DUP charmers

They refuse to allow a language act through for Galic speakers - something the Welsh, Scottish and even Cornish enjoy!
LGBT community still have no rights
Abortion rights still not extended to NI women
£500 million missing - Arlene Foster responsible but won't step aside

NannyMcPhU Tue 27-Jun-17 07:48:33

Where I come from we have a saying "he who sups with the devil should have a long spoon".