Cliff Edge anyone?

That caused a flurry of excitement Yougov of course not you gob as my iPad keeps trying to say or you Gove.

I'm just guessing. Couldn't imagine that doing anything for Gove's chances of getting the top spot.

or 'taking the Michael' as we could say

ha ha, sorry, I really misread that as the Michael

Oh!!

Yougov?

nor me Jalima

Gove didn't ask me

Mumsnet post

You Gove have found that people who no longer work (but whose income is provided and protected by those who do work )I.e. Over 65s, and who have largely paid off their mortgage, say that people loosing their jobs is worth it for Brexit. Mainly because they don't carry the risk or pay the price.

I like your list of euromyths, Maizie.
I wonder how many of them Boris started.

Nicky Morgan has requested that the Bank of England provides the Finance Committee with details of contingency plans in the case of a hard Brexit.

It is estimated that 40,000 jobs in the wholesale baking service will be lost. But there is a high risk that even more jobs will be lost.

Bank of America is picking Dublin as the post Brexit hub?

Barclays is also picking Dublin.

Morgan Stanley is picking Frankfurt

Citi are expanding into Europe.

Mitsubishi UFJ is moving to Amsterdam.

Frankfurt and Dublin are to be the main destinations for banking sales and trading activities.

Guardian today.

As long as the employment is legal I thought pension contributions were now compulsory. Why should anyone working in UK and paying NI and tax not be entitled to the same benefits of everyone else?

A solution to "cheap foreign labour" post Brexit, (whenever that is) will be to say businesses can employ foreign nationals but must be responsible for private health care and pension contributions. We blame those who come to work here for 'taking' jobs but who is offering them??

GracesGran
Strange that you should use the word 'lazy'
That's just the word I used this morning discussing this subject. And that goes for all parties.

New video from Professor Dougan

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xN7tw61-vE

Transcript here:

news.liverpool.ac.uk/2017/07/31/watch-project-fear-to-project-reality-prof-michael-dougan-one-year-on-from-eu-referendum/

E.g. several countries have expressed their interest in a future trade deal with the UK in principle; but in practice, they intend to prioritise their own economic relations with the EU and (by the way) would prefer us to clarify our position first please.

By contrast, the Government treats every random statement about some great, very powerful, very quick trade deal, uttered from the mouth or keyboard of the terrifyingly unstable President Trump, as if it were gospel – conveniently forgetting that Trump has been absolutely consistent about just one aspect of US international relations: America First.

I think there were always enough countries in the EU who at least wanted to modify Freedom of Movement that something could have been done ... but I have always thought it Petra it doesn't change my opinion on being in or out. Also, it does go with the thought that the EU was never the problem - it was our lazy and disconnected governments which caused the issues and persuaded the electorate that all the troubles originated with the EU whilst they should, in fact, have been laid at door of the government/s.

Is anyone aware that the French and Swedish presidents are getting together to stop the free movement of people from Eastern Europe.
They are both fed up with the influx of cheap labour and undermining working conditions.
Do they not know that all this cheap labour is a boost to the economy
It appears that the eastern states are a little confused and upset as Macron said he was going to revamp the eu.
Little did they know which way the revamp was going to go I wonder if either of them run this over herr Merkel first.
I wonder how some of you think now, now that two of the paragons of the eu are against free movement of 'some' people.
It's quiet ironic isn't it that this is a 'stumbling block' in the negotiations and here we have two eu countries demanding exactly the same

Misconduct in public office?

Just spoken on phone with my Parisian friend - been friends for 60 years - she mentioned Brexit and asked me what we thought and said the French all think it is madness and they can see no benefit for the UK.

Good link about Lord Sugar, GG
As well as suing them, their constituents should remove them as MP, and select someone truthful instead..
But it won't happen.

Cabinet split over how best to wreck ordinary people’s lives

Lord Sugar Says Pro-Brexit Ministers Should Be Charged Over £350m NHS Claim

Crumbs.

I remember that from the FT last year. Brexit & bent bananas. It was an article about the crazy fake regulations from the EU.

Here are some more, Primrose

An impresive list of euromyths and their perpetrators started in 1992

blogs.ec.europa.eu/ECintheUK/euromyths-a-z-index/

Will be interesting to see if permits are needed again in EU and how much they are this time round. USA is hundreds for renewal of the Green card plus an interview with some Fed official - citizenship is about $2K each - these prices are for minors too and they all need one.