Cliff Edge anyone?

The University of Amsterdam has done something that our government has singularly failed to do - produced a report on the impact of Brexit on individuals in the UK.

They also have a Brexit information point which keeps everyone up to date with everything that is happening.

Very useful

What are WUMs, GG?

No one needs to stay off any thread. All that is required is civility when responding to another's post. It's quite simple. The majority of others are able to do it.

*The majority of others are able to do it.^

You're reading a completely different forum from me. chewbacca

Anybody live in Cornwall? If you do I expect that you are very aware of the huge amount of EU money being spent on things like the road improvements around Bodmin and other such infrastructure investment.

The government will not it says continue with these investment post Brexit. Cornwall will lose on average £60 million pa

Tegan, I think you could say that of any country which thinks it leads the world and then finds itself with the fiscal and societal problems we have. I feel the spark is always the person who can set that country on the course to war and how other countries behave towards them.

What are WUMs, GG?

I think you could ask what being told you are 'spamming the thread' means Maizie and you would get a very similar answer.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-boris-johnson-eu-citizens-future-immigration-uk-clarity-economy-workers-gerard-lyons-city-a7870291.html

One of my greatest concerns is the fact that DD [who has studied and taught the era extensively] says that this country is very similar to Germany prior to WWII.
Tegan, I think you could say that of any country which thinks it leads the world and then finds itself with the fiscal and societal problems we have

I totally disagree. The UK is nothing like Nazi Germany before WW2 and I don't think you can apply the 'like 1930s Germany' sticker to any country at the moment.

I voted to remain in the EU.
I appreciate the Leave arguments but do not agree with them. The narrow outcome of the referendum was used by pro leave politicians as a 'carte blanche' to plough ahead with leaving, despite not having a clear idea or end vision to guide their " negotiations" I suspect only a small percentage of voters in the referendum had any real idea of the full consequences of leaving/staying. Now, as the process is underway, and all kinds of unforseens come to light, the electorate is realising it is not the easy route to " getting our country back" (whatever that means!) or deporting / not admitting 1,000s of essential workers. It will be a long and slow process where UK will not always win the hand & where even the Trump card is not a winner.

The Trump card can't possibly be a winner!!!

I'd love to know where that small percentage of voters who knew the consequences of leaving are hiding now, Penstemmon, because they are not telling us anything.

www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/brexit-latest-news-uk-finances-investment-banking-jobs-lose-40000-city-london-eu-european-union-a7870206.html

Would there be any point telling us now what consequences they foresaw? Telling us again? Telling us "I told you so!" We were told before the referendum by all those experts we were supposed to ignore (Response - What do experts know about anything? Why spend 25 minutes watching a video that explains it all so that anyone can understand - can't be bothered listening for that long. It's boring.)

Now it comes to the crunch, there is no need to be told.

With regard to exports. SMEs and middling companies have seen a growth in their exports since the value of sterling dropped. This may be seen as less certain post Brexit as there will of course be tariffs to contend with. The loss of negotiated agreements, and of course the port bureaucracy, which will all add to the cost,.

I agree about being able to purchase property abroad pre1985 petra - but were you allowed to live in it full time with out visas etc? That is the case for non EU citizens now in France - they either need a visa which needs to be renewed every ten years or only have six months residency per year.

The UK is massively misinformed about the EU.

I remember that from the FT last year. Brexit & bent bananas. It was an article about the crazy fake regulations from the EU.

I don't think it was nearly as easy to live abroad before the EU and I know lots of people who remember how hard it was to get residence and work permits.
My OH worked for a British company (high-tech) and did masses of consultancy in Europe. He is very well aware of how much easier it all became after the introduction of the single market and Custom's Union.
Not sure why people would want to make it harder for businesses to earn money for the UK economy?

Because it's not British, Mamie?

Good article by Seb Dance, Labour MEP for London.

labourlist.bluestatedigital.com/page/m/2c9aecb6/13fa0d4e/63f1e5ba/34ad1caf/1474694065/VEsHAw/

www.theweek.co.uk/87349/brits-queue-for-four-hours-at-eu-airports

Only going to get worse. The EU is showing us what can happen. This is because we are not part of Schengen.

There were a lot more customs checks at the borders too - plus a limit on things you could take across borders - spirits, perfume, cigarettes etc.

It is a good article Jen (Seb Dance) but reading the first comment by someone who calls his fellow human being 'remainiacs' does show some of what he is up against.

I have just been listening to a programme about personal debt which ended with an 'expert' saying that yes, we are the fifth largest economy but so much of it is built on personal debt. I'm afraid I see a perfect storm when we do no longer appear to be a country that can underpin such debt.

Welshwife
Yes we did live there full time except for a couple of months in the winter when we went to Spain. We had to get a residency permit every year where we had to show bank statements and private medical insurance.
We weren't working so there was no need for work permits.