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Anniebach Fri 07-Jul-17 10:28:05

Luciana Berger who is chair of the Jewish Labour Movement was re-elected in Liverpool with a majority of nearly 33,000

Momentum activists took nine of ten positions in the LP, one new official has said Berger is now answerable to us!

I thought an MP was answerable to her constituency

kittylester Fri 07-Jul-17 10:41:51

I find it jolly scary, Annie.

Anniebach Fri 07-Jul-17 10:45:05

Kitty, I have spoken of momentum taking over the Labour Party for ages, it is happening and we will not have a Labour Party

Baggs Fri 07-Jul-17 10:45:24

Ah. x threads, annie. Momentum is anti-democracy. See my thread re Luciana Berger.

Anniebach Fri 07-Jul-17 10:48:11

Just posted there Baggs

Baggs Fri 07-Jul-17 10:48:32

Wait a wee while and the GN Momentum mob will fall on we lifelong Labour supporters, chew up our arguments and spit them out as unrecognisable garbage. Still, my argument is there in plain print to be challenged rationally by anyone who wants to and who can.

Anniebach Fri 07-Jul-17 10:59:32

Yep, Momentum and militants ruled

sunseeker Fri 07-Jul-17 11:14:28

As I understand it Momentum are seeking to deselect those who have not voiced support for Jeremy Corbyn. When he was a backbencher Corbyn often disagreed and challenged the leadership of the party. So are they saying it is only OK to challenge if your views are the same as theirs? Claim to be in favour of democracy but their actions prove otherwise.

Anniebach Fri 07-Jul-17 11:53:38

Exactly sunseeker , their idea of democracy is - do as we say

TerriBull Fri 07-Jul-17 12:30:16

There seems to be something rotten at the heart of the current Labour party that holds sway now. John McDonell in particular is a nasty piece of work, among other things, calling for Esther McVey to be lynched. There isn't a rule that says politicians must like their opponents, but incitement to hatred shock Jezza may look benign in a Rasputin sort of a way, but behind the Father Christmas mask, he makes it clear he doesn't allow dissent. Luciana Berger's treatment is appalling, but this party under the current leader has never got to grips with the anti semitism within. Angela Eagle had all manner of slurs thrown at her for her sexuality when she put herself up for leadership a while back. All this from so called "progressive politics". It will be a sad day for democracy if the hard left form a government. This is not about policies, but shutting down debate. A regressive Momentum Labour Party has all the hallmarks of a totalitarian regime.

petra Fri 07-Jul-17 12:33:44

Most of the young, who signed up to join the Labour Party weren't even born when the Berlin Wall came down so have no idea or knowledge of how dangerous these people are.
Like most people on this forum I grew up with knowing how the 'thought police' operate. I also lived in an ex communist country.
Would you believe that I was having a conversation with a neighbour (in that county) about politics and she said: shush, you don't know who's listening. That was in 2004!!

petra Fri 07-Jul-17 12:34:50

You also got a shush if you mentioned the mafia grin

gillybob Fri 07-Jul-17 12:35:16

Just read that the LP in our region have drawn up a kind of hitlist of MP's who have dared to disagree with JC in the past . Threatening that they either tow the line or "else"!

Anniebach Fri 07-Jul-17 12:41:47

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devongirl Fri 07-Jul-17 12:43:33

ab I feel sure that it is possible to find positive things that JC has done

Anniebach Fri 07-Jul-17 12:43:36

There is something rotten at the heart of the Labour Party, Corbyn and McDonald

Anniebach Fri 07-Jul-17 12:44:54

I feel sure you will find them Devongirl, doesn't change what he has done, is doing and will do

gillybob Fri 07-Jul-17 12:46:58

I agree Anniebach we have suffered this kind of dictatorship LP in our region for a long time which is one of the reasons I gave up my LP membership . Did we see this coming ?

Anniebach Fri 07-Jul-17 12:49:22

Yes we did seeing it coming Gilly.

durhamjen Fri 07-Jul-17 17:54:50

Rather have this, would you?

whitewave Fri 07-Jul-17 17:57:11

Some are considering him as a potential Tory leader!!!

Such a man of the world. grin

rosesarered Fri 07-Jul-17 18:01:36

Most people find them worrying (Momentum) they sound a real shower.

durhamjen Fri 07-Jul-17 18:04:34

Have you seen he has called his sixth child Sixtus, whitewave? Poor child. The only one of the six to have a normal name is the girl, Mary.

whitewave Fri 07-Jul-17 18:15:18

Pretentious moi? grin

rosesarered Fri 07-Jul-17 18:23:38

TerriBull... have just read your post ( a very good one) and that's exactly what I feel, that Momentum are like a totalitarian regime ( how dare you criticise our great Leader! ) I fear that moderate MP's will be for the chop.