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Anniebach Fri 07-Jul-17 10:28:05

Luciana Berger who is chair of the Jewish Labour Movement was re-elected in Liverpool with a majority of nearly 33,000

Momentum activists took nine of ten positions in the LP, one new official has said Berger is now answerable to us!

I thought an MP was answerable to her constituency

MaizieD Fri 14-Jul-17 09:56:43

It's what they do best.

Not above getting a little sneer in yourself, then, Baggs?

Baggs Fri 14-Jul-17 07:30:31

not sure why his Nanny going campaigning with him should be a problem.

Yes, crafting, quite. It isn't a problem. People bring up things like this just to be sneery and then when the sneeriness towards JRM or his nanny is challenged they sneer again. It's what they do best.

nightowl Sat 08-Jul-17 15:52:09

Anniebach, whatever the rights or wrongs of Jackie Walker's (who incidentally is Jewish) comments about anti-semitism, they took place at a Labour Party training day and not a momentum training day. She was suspended from the party and stripped of her position as vice chair of momentum. She had since been readmitted to the party. I'm sure you know all this but of course you prefer to use the facts to have yet another go at Corbyn and momentum. 'Momentum training day' sounds so very sinister doesn't it? grin

Crafting Sat 08-Jul-17 14:13:10

I try not to listen to rumours ww as you never really know who's behind them and what their adgenda is. To be honest, I'm not sure I would trust any politician from any party really. From what I have seen and read about him, I quite like him. Not saying he should be PM just not sure why his Nanny going campaigning with him should be a problem.

Anniebach Sat 08-Jul-17 12:34:53

There is a difference between an open Momentum meeting and a Momentum training day.

It was at a training day a trainer was filmed saying she didn't know what anti-semitism was, she was suspending from the party, she then became the organiser for Corbyns public appearances

GracesGranMK2 Sat 08-Jul-17 12:16:48

Currently, Momentum feels like a bunch of bullies.

Why do they feel like this to you Jane. Have you met them, been to their meetings, interacted with them? Or are you just relying on what the right wing press tell you. Not that they would put forward a biased view, of course hmm.

You actually seem to have no facts to stand your opinion on and we all know that an opinion without facts is a prejudice. Perhaps you can't see it.

petra Sat 08-Jul-17 12:09:14

WhiteWave
I've heard exactly the same 'rumours' about some labour MPs.
But unlike you, I don't mention names.

Ilovecheese Sat 08-Jul-17 12:06:08

"Was this thread started just for people to give a sort of roll call of hatred of Momentum?"

I think that is exactly what it was started for

Jochilling Sat 08-Jul-17 11:59:33

What a great read this thread has been really enjoying it thats all nothing to add

whitewave Sat 08-Jul-17 11:45:12

craft you wouldn't want th hear what some Tories say about him, and I can't repeat as too rude.

Crafting Sat 08-Jul-17 11:39:12

I think she is a much loved and very important part of his family. Rather than mocking him for taking his nanny canvassing with him I think it shows that she loves and supports him too.

durhamjen Sat 08-Jul-17 10:57:13

I think, Baggs, if you read the article in the Telegraph, you will find she IS just an adjunct of the man she helped raise.
Just google Jacob Rees-Mogg's Nanny. It'll appear as if by magic.

whitewave Sat 08-Jul-17 10:56:22

Momentum "appears" as they do to many people because they be
If what they read in the gutter press and right wing media.

Fake news some of us would call it.

whitewave Sat 08-Jul-17 10:54:14

Taking ones nanny campaigning- you must admit is highly unusual, a tad derisory and certainly worthy of comment.

And I am certainly not ashamed to say so - loud and proud that's me!!

durhamjen Sat 08-Jul-17 10:51:21

Why should I be ashamed, Baggs, for repeating what Rees-Mogg himself said?
Listen to yourself. It's laughable.

Eloethan Sat 08-Jul-17 10:51:16

Why is it portrayed as "closing down discussion" for people to respond to comments with which they disagree? Was this thread started just for people to give a sort of roll call of hatred of Momentum?

I didn't say "I went to a meeting, and found them [Momentum] all lovely". I said they were not as described in the right wing tabloid press. For example the majority were older people. It seems there are so many experts who know how terrible Momentum is who don't know any Momentum people and have never attended any of their meetings - not surprisingly because many making these statements are proud Conservatives.

As Rees Mogg has been suggested as a successor to May, I think it is perfectly in order to examine his voting record in relation to his own background and lifestyle. Let's face it, some of the posters on here who are outraged at this supposed intrusion have spent many happy hours doing exactly the same in relation to Corbyn.

Cindersdad Sat 08-Jul-17 10:48:27

Ress-Mogg, Liam Fox, IDS and Boris are some of the many reasons I could never vote Tory.
With Momentum and JC in charge of Labour they are ruled out too.

The only leaves the Lib Dems and Greens so what chance do I have of ever having a vote that counts. Unless of course we get PR which seems unlikely.

Baggs Sat 08-Jul-17 10:36:33

Rees-Mogg's nanny is a person in her own right. Maybe she wanted to go campaigning with him. Maybe she asked to go. Why are people talking as if she were just an adjunct of a grown-up child she helped raise? Listen to yourselves and be ashamed!

Spot on, petra and sunseeker.

durhamjen Sat 08-Jul-17 10:34:04

Yes, Jane10, it's laughable that Labour members are envious of Moggmentum.

sunseeker Sat 08-Jul-17 10:30:48

And still dj you don't comment on the rest of my post. Well I am off now, have a busy day ahead.

Jane10 Sat 08-Jul-17 10:28:04

You were the one who said it was laughable

durhamjen Sat 08-Jul-17 10:26:36

Can you tell me, Jane10, where Labour people are shown to be envious?
That's what was laughable.

durhamjen Sat 08-Jul-17 10:24:05

I am not forcing Momentum's opinions on anyone. I am not a member, know nothing about them, have never been to a Momentum meeting, but those who seem to know the most have never been to a meeting, either.
The one person who has on here gets told she has no idea what she is talking about, so why should I discuss Momentum. It's all hearsay, except for that one post.

Jane10 Sat 08-Jul-17 10:20:32

dj 'laughable' or not that's how Momentum and its apparent aims appear to many people. If you are determined to force their opinions on others you/they really need to do some work on the psychology of the average person. Currently, Momentum feels like a bunch of bullies. Surely not how they see themselves. Burns had it right 'oh wad the Lord the giftae gie us tae see oorsels as ithers see us.'

durhamjen Sat 08-Jul-17 10:20:28

Well, of course, Sunseeker. You were wrong, and won't admit it.
Moggmentum did TAKE her.
He had to take her with him, as they live a long way from Fife, which is where they were campaigning.
Lucky Fife. Sorry, Somerset.