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Should Tony Blair comment on Brexit?

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Cindersdad Sun 16-Jul-17 08:56:21

I happen to agree with Tony Blair on Brexit but the leaders of the main parties seem to regard him as an irritation. Whilst TB made a gross error of judgement on Iraq his views on Europe appear to be better thought out. However, there is a danger that comments from former statespersons just muddy the already murky waters.

Jeremy Corbyn's response just harked back to respecting the referendum result with blind acceptance whatever the consequences. I just hope that sooner or later someone gets through to the automatons that steer the rudderless ship of state.

52% did vote LEAVE but that vote was influenced by lies, prejudice and a dose of apathy. Since then dust has partially settled the "will of the People" is now probably quite different and that should at least be considered.

Rigby46 Sun 16-Jul-17 13:05:47

ab good post re TB's achievements- I wonder when there'll ever be another PM with a list like that in any party.

maddyone Sun 16-Jul-17 13:04:38

Ah Mo Molam, liked and respected by everyone I believe, certainly by me anyway. A very good politician and a good person, in my opinion.

Anniebach Sun 16-Jul-17 12:59:14

No, Corbyn Was not involved in the good Friday agreement, this is a tale put out by vox pox , I was fair and asked a former N.I.Secretary, if it had been true I would say, he had supported the IRA for many years and was disliked very much by many in NI and not trusted by all , trusted very much by Sin Fein though in fairness

The credit goes to Mo Molam, John Major,Tony Blair and Bill Clinton

maddyone Sun 16-Jul-17 12:48:50

Shou!d Tony Blair comment on Brexit?
Publicly, no!
Privately, if he wants to, he can!

durhamjen Sun 16-Jul-17 12:47:27

Good Friday agreement, which May seems intent on breaking.
Wasn't Corbyn involved in that?

Anniebach Sun 16-Jul-17 12:45:47

Too far right ?

Minimum wage,

Working tax credit

Child tax credit

Reduced vat on fuel

Winter fuel payments

Grants for loft insulation

Devolution

Good Friday agreement

Freedom information act

Adoption by gay couples legal

Civil partnership act

Lifted ban on gays in armed forces

Increase in child benefit

LadyGracie Sun 16-Jul-17 12:25:03

He can say what he likes as long as I don't have to look at or listen to the smarmy git!

devongirl Sun 16-Jul-17 12:12:43

Agree with you Gill, if only that would happen. Feels like we're off towards the cliff edge like lemmings.

On the subject of TB, personally he was too far right for me, but I do applaud the Good Friday agreement which posters seem to have forgotten about.

Anniebach Sun 16-Jul-17 12:07:36

Blair does not want to be an MP again, he has refused a seat in the Lords, unlike
Baroness Shami who got her bum on those seats after a few months membership of the Labour Party. Oh and after brining in the right verdict on anti semitism in the party

kittylester Sun 16-Jul-17 11:57:04

As a labour party member it is questionable whether he has freedom of speech - what is that all about, Rigby?

He thinks he is the Messiah so, of course, he can say what he likes.

durhamjen Sun 16-Jul-17 11:56:22

Blair said in his article that he didn't want to start a new party. He wants to take over Labour again.

Anniebach Sun 16-Jul-17 11:44:39

I so agree Gill, Corbyn wants out, always has. Blair's interview with Sophie Ridge this morning was so sensible,

Cindersdad Sun 16-Jul-17 11:40:51

Exactly GillT57 you've said it how it is. The problem is that neither politicians nor media pundits are willing to challenge Brexit. So that leaves it to messrs. Blair, Heseltine, Major, Patten etc. True they no longer have any clout but they may just trigger a revolt in parliament which is the only hope for the country.

GillT57 Sun 16-Jul-17 11:33:07

TB is as entitled to pass comment as Heseltine, Patten, Major. Like him or loathe him, he was a very important part of British politics for a very long time and his opinion cannot be dismissed just because the current Labour leadership don't like him. Frankly, if he was to form a new Remain party with Major, Heseltine, Clarke, Soubrey et all I would seriously consider voting for them I am so desperate for this catastrophe to be headed off. The Tories are still fighting amongst themselves, and Labour are not much better. Nobody is looking after my interests at the moment, they are all concerned about their own careers and party politics while we go careering towards financial disaster.

Anniebach Sun 16-Jul-17 11:00:18

Fair comment Whitewave , seems everyone has a right to free speech except Blair

Anniebach Sun 16-Jul-17 10:59:08

Paddyann, believes Blair did little when PM .

It is rather amusing some who are so against Brexit think he should remain silent on being against Brexit

whitewave Sun 16-Jul-17 10:58:13

So if all those who think that he had no right in speaking about Brexit, would they also agree that no one else who isn't an MP does not have the right either?

Oldwoman70 Sun 16-Jul-17 10:55:50

He can say what he wants - what I want to know is why is he having talks with those in the EU? He no longer has any say in UK politics, he isn't an MP and has not been elected to speak for the electorate of UK. By holding his "talks" he is undermining those who actually are there representing and negotiating on behalf of the UK.

GillT57 Sun 16-Jul-17 10:55:01

TB is perfectly entitled to comment on the state of Brexit, he is as entitled as any of us, and to be honest the more people that speak out the better. It is time a few more members of the Houses made their views clear, John Major and Tony Blair agree with each other on this and should both be listened to. I admit to being a bit disturbed about the way the current Labour party dismiss anything he says, he may be toxic to some but he did win 3 elections, so the people who voted for him should not all be dismissed as being wrong or is the 'will of the people' only relevant when we talk of those deluded enough to vote for Brexit?

Chewbacca Sun 16-Jul-17 10:50:22

Where ww?

whitewave Sun 16-Jul-17 10:48:53

Lot of hypocrisy going on on this thread

Chewbacca Sun 16-Jul-17 10:47:43

Would that be a "no" then goldengirl ? grin

goldengirl Sun 16-Jul-17 10:46:25

NO! NO! NO!

Chewbacca Sun 16-Jul-17 10:44:39

Wouldn't trust TB if he told me grass was green. Can't think of any other PM, past or present, who is as self serving as him.

durhamjen Sun 16-Jul-17 10:41:55

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