BBC transparency

(may it sink like the Titanic!)

Or like one of my cakes devongirl

Lewlew were Miliband & Co. such good substitutes for Jeremy Vine because they copied his style of presenting perfectly?

Doesn't say much for their own presenting skills!

gillybob yes, we do have the right to question these salaries, as you say we pay the license fee. I don't believe any so called celebrity deserves such a large salary.

I thought Ed Milliband sitting in for Jeremy Vine was cringe worthy Ana Nothing to do with his politics either. He just sounded so out of place and awkward.

Sorry Lewlew I hadn't realised that you mentioned EM in the first place. I still thought he was cringeworthy though.

What worries me and what I suspect is that these huge amounts of payments -and don't forget there are many not listed because of the way these people are paid- is that quality of programmes suffer as a result as a result of these inflated payments. play-writes, comedy writers etc appear to have been sacrificed to a greater or lesser extent imo to these prima donnas.

whitewave I think you have hit the nail on the head re the Murdoch bid for Sky. Heaven help us if he gets it.

More pressure on the BBC in terms of what is paid to presenters and entertainers, plus preventing it from competing with commercial channels on "light entertainment" programmes will surely see the demise of the BBC - at least in its present form - within 10 years or so.

Then see how the cost of watching subscription TV sky rockets - as has everything else once state provision is out of the picture.

gillybob - IDS also presented the J Vine show - he was even worse and I had to turn him off after a touple of minutes...

Oh thank goodness I didn't hear him Ana . My ears hurt just thinking about it.

The bit where the various callers were flushing their loos was quite funny and I admit to having a giggle just imagining the Wallace and Grommet style faces, EM would have been pulling.

gillybob Thu 20-Jul-17 11:55:23

They are all cringe-worthy!! EM was funny because of it and made me laugh.

Teetime When I was a new editor of a Gransnet Local page I mentioned it at a hobby group I went to - all people of at least 50, most of them much more. The apathetic silence was deafening, apart from one (man) who said "We don't want to hear a lot of people going on about their grandchildren." I told them about all the other things that are discussed but the image of a crowd of old women gossiping was too strong.

I don't think it is easy to change the name of an organisation overnight though. All the paperwork, all the marketing, all the business and journalist connections, all of it are in the name of Gransnet.

Nice work if you can get it. I would have loved to have been a radio DJ but have only ever had fairly lowly jobs. Somehow I can't help thinking that I chose the wrong path in life.
I wonder how much the average brain surgeon earns?

I don't know why this appeared on the wrong thread. I went to "Add comment" from the right thread.

I would hazard a guess at a fair bit less than Mr Evans gets for talking about himself on the radio lovebeige.

I think I might have made a good DJ too. Well I like talking cr*p, love music and have what you might call a "radio face".

Now that the payments made to the top BBC 'talent' have been announced, maybe we can rest assured that commercial companies, amazed at how little they are paid, will make immediate enhanced bids for the lot of them.
Then we could start again
For starters, My dustbin men , whatever the weather and their ages, are smiling, pleasant, friendly and funny. Perhaps new talent could be recruited from such sources

I don't have a TV or a TV licence. The BBC is disgracefully politically biased and ageist, and we shouldn't be forced to pay a licence fee in order to watch any telly at all. (I do go to someone else's house to watch Poldark though!)

I'm always available (for radio work) widgeon see my earlier post.

Aaah Haa you have outed yourself womble I guess you watch for the wonderful scenery then?

I'd be happy to see the end of the BBC and the licence fee because they are no longer a Public Broadcasting Company but just a left wing media machine. Let them go commercial and show ads and complete with the rest of the channels- I never pay attention to any of the ads anyway so another channel that shows them won't bother me.

sorry, 'compete'!

I think the salaries disclosure was too simplistic because it wasn't expressed in like-for-like terms. There was much resentment when it was revealed that the male presenter (no idea of his name) on BBC Breakfast is paid way more than Louise Minchin even though they share the presenting equally but he might do other presenting or more work behind the scenes than she does. Until we know like-for-like, we can't judge. It's certainly against the law for an employer to pay less to a woman for equivalent work.

The BBC used to offer training in tv related skills and my friend trained as a makep artist. Now there is no training that I know of generally available. 700,000 pounds for Jeremy Vine to do Eggheads and one radio show. It is shameful. Jeremy Corbyn suggests a cao at 325000. Sounds generous to me but it would be a start. And why should we be concerned that Claudia Winkleman earns 500,000 pounds because Chris Evans gets 2 million...they are both obscenely overpaid. I would dearly love to be able to opt out of the BBC licence and happy to miss the few good progs they have.

Grrrrrrrr!

Grrrrrr indeed jevive and there's not a damned thing we can do about it!

What annoyed me was that before the list was announced both Chris Evans and Gary Linniker said they loved their jobs so much the money wasn't important! They weren't concerned with how much they earned. Twaddle! If that's true they can both take a 90% pay cut!

I heard that too Nfk It stinks and laughs in the face of those who struggle to pay their license fees.