Fight "Brexit" if you want to

I looked at the European Movement a while ago, whitewave, but I have a problem with Stephen Dorrell and his links to KPMG and health reforms.

My god what is the matter with you people? We are leaving the EU no matter what. Lets all pull together and make it the best possible opportunity for the U.K. It seems the only democracy some on here want is the democracy when they are on the winning side, let me remind you, the vote was not a close thing, there were 1.2 million more voters that voted for Brexit. I don't know anyone one who originally voted to leave who have now changed their mind, far from it, they are even more determined than they ever were. Instead of being divided, isn't it about time we all worked together or would that mean that some of you wouldn't have anything to moan about?

Haha! You said it Tallulah spot on.

It's their raison d'etre Tallulah...

Why would we want to pull together for something we think is to the determent of the country Tallulah? Democracy doesn't stop on the day of the vote - it's ongoing.

You may say it was not a close thing but usually, when you haven't got a load of arrogant Tories who think they will win just by being them, cocking up the whole idea of how referendums work, you would have had a quorum placed on something as monumental as this and it would be something like having to reach 60% to change the status quo. So in those terms it was a small majority.

There were all sorts of things wrong with the actual legality of the referendum and also the Article 50 - don't hold your breath yet.

Defence rests.

ww well the barrister whose article you posted certainly questions the legality of quite a lot.

I'm always so puzzled as to what we're supposed to do to 'pull together'.

I have visions of all the Brextremists sat in a rowing boat pulling together towards an almighty waterfall.

Haha great vision.
How can we ''pull together'' - we have to sit back while the powers that be make a b---s up of everything.
Back to Poldark.

Watching Operation Crossbow on BBC4.
Someone on there talks like that. I can just imagine her telling us all to pull together, gals.

inews.co.uk/opinion/politicians-brave-brexit-means/

Apparently it was David Davis who said if a democracy cannot change its mind it ceases to be a democracy.

We could start by not having holidays abroad but avoiding anything in this country that's partly EU funded [the Eden Project for example].Not drinking French wine....

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Can we still have Spanish wine though * Tegan*?

I rarely holiday abroad only cos I can't afford to, not because I am boycotting them

Not sure if there are any EU funded projects around here.

Do they live under bridges POGS ?

You may well find that some of the big road projects were EU funded. The wine would be expensive anyway and you would probably need to pay for Visas to visit countries on the Continent - one visa for each person and for each country. The current price for 3rdcoubtry people visiting France is about £30.

Some colleges - particularly for post 18 education were funded by the EU too.

Don't turn your taps on as most water companies are French owned and so are the electricity power stations.

It's all still very open and could go either way. Article 50 is not binding until the very end. Parliament can still call the whole thing off.

A soft Brexit is not an option when you look at it logically and a hard one economic suicide. The only viable option therefore is to effectively call the whole thing off.

As more truths come to light the more likely it is that the house of cards will fall apart. I agree that relatively few Leave voters have changed their minds but the hitherto apathetic youngsters that supported JC in the General election have given a mandate for change that cannot be ignored.

MP's will vote to stay if they think the country is behind them. The trend to stay is happening democratically.

It will need direct action and there are enough of us who care to make that possible.

Is that per visit, Welshwife? It'll add a bit to a family holiday.

BiG road projects in the North East ? Yore having a laugh aren't your Welshwife we still have a (lethally dangerous) single lane stretch of road linking us to Scotland!

I very rarely travel abroad so that won't effect me really.

But the Rioja.... Well that's different .

David Cameron did promise more dual carriageways on the A1 [even had his photo taken on one stretch of the road]. As with a lot of his promises [except for the referendum] nothing much seems to be happening.

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Aren't some of the railways, too, Welshwife?
If they are not owned by the French, it's the German national rail company.
Here's proper bringing back control.

weownit.org.uk/sites/default/files/downloadable-resources/We%20Own%20It%20manifesto%202017%20-%20How%20public%20ownership%20can%20give%20us%20real%20control.pdf