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Fight "Brexit" if you want to

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Cindersdad Fri 21-Jul-17 07:39:14

There is a growing grumbling among the wider populace as more comes to light about the effect of Brexit. I'm on the email lists for several anti Brexit movements. Let's be honest their aims are to stop Brexit in its tracks; that does go against the referendum result which by some is seen as heresy. However, as more truths come to light the less feasible Brexit appears.

www.facebook.com/hashtag/fightbrexit

Now Vince Cable has become LibDem leader he has openly come out saying that his aim is to cancel Brexit. It will be an uphill struggle and not everyone agrees that Brexit should be stopped.

Smaller local events are being planned not just Southern (mainly London) based where you can join in.

In Liverpool (which voted REMAIN) tomorrow(Leaflet and information):
Date: Saturday, 22 July
Time: 10 00 - 1 00
Venue: Lark Lane Farmers' Market
Address: 1 Lark Lane, L17 8UN

You could argue as the Brexiteers will that as a country we are presenting a divided even disloyal image to the EU but when so many of us are trying to resist the cliff edge that is scarcely surprising.

www.europeanmovement.co.uk/

Your European Health Card is in danger!!!

gillybob Sun 23-Jul-17 22:44:05

Stupid iPad !

I think that most of the planned work has been shelved Tegan and only a very short stretch will go / has gone ahead.

They need the money for the HS2 project and we're only Northerners after all.

MaizieD Sun 23-Jul-17 22:56:30

BiG road projects in the North East ? Yore having a laugh aren't your Welshwife

There is the interminable upgrading of the A1 a bit further south, but I think it counts as the North East gillybob. It's a huge project and it's been going on for years. We'll eventually have A1(M) all the way to Newcastle. Perhaps they'll get round to the Newcastle - Edinburgh stretch next.

Jalima1108 Sun 23-Jul-17 23:08:31

I didn't realise it had been shelved.

durhamjen Sun 23-Jul-17 23:28:14

It hasn't been.

roads.highways.gov.uk/projects/a1-scotswood-to-north-brunton/

durhamjen Sun 23-Jul-17 23:40:30

I think I read somewhere that Norway has been in transition for 23 years.

MaizieD Sun 23-Jul-17 23:48:01

It doesn't start until 2020, dj

See page 2

highwaysengland.citizenspace.com/he/a1-scotswood-to-north-brunton/supporting_documents/N170002_Scotswood_PIE_Flyer_Digital3%20HIGH%20RES%20FOR%20WEB.pdf

durhamjen Mon 24-Jul-17 00:07:41

I know that, but it hasn't been cancelled.
They are actually having demonstrations about it at the moment, and until the end of August, to show residents what it's all about. Roads always take a long time to plan, particularly ones through cities.

durhamjen Mon 24-Jul-17 00:11:11

Yes, that's on page 3, the public exhibitions about it.
At least I will not have to go up to Cramlington regularly when that starts. The CoalHouse roundabout seemed to take for ever.

durhamjen Mon 24-Jul-17 00:25:00

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2017/jul/20/steve-bell-on-britain-and-the-brexit-negotiations

whitewave Mon 24-Jul-17 07:40:31

He has done some absolute classics recently.

Welshwife Mon 24-Jul-17 07:59:43

I went to bed as we are of course an hour ahead of you!

I think it could well be a trip visa - I think the SA ones are.

If the EU fund projects the Objective one areas get a lot of money and the UK Govt cannot deflect it. - must be used for the project it was agreed - this is how Wales has had so much

gillybob Mon 24-Jul-17 08:16:00

It is the Newcastle to Scotland bit I am thinking about Mazie

Only part of the A1 is going/has gone ahead. There is no timetable in place for the rest (the words of Chris Grayling) "we are therefore concentrating on the stretch between Morpeth and Ellingham" "can I give a date when the A1 will be dialed from Newcastle to Scotland.......No"

There is a very dangerous stretch between Ellingham and Berwick over 16 miles long . No plans are in the cards to do this.

gillybob Mon 24-Jul-17 08:19:51

My iPad really doesn't like the word "dualed" it prefers dialed ! (Is there even such a word as dualed???) confused

Elegran Mon 24-Jul-17 08:49:00

Distance by road from London to Nottingham - 127 miles
Distance from Nottingham to Newcastle - 159 miles
Distance from Newcastle to Edinburgh - 140 miles

So modernising a third of the A1 (that little bit between Newcastle and Edinburgh) has no importance?

Primrose65 Mon 24-Jul-17 09:15:27

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/23/labour-would-leave-single-market-jeremy-corbyn

A Labour government would leave the single market because it is “dependent on membership of the EU” but seek a trade deal that mirrored the free trade benefits, Jeremy Corbyn has said.

MaizieD Mon 24-Jul-17 09:19:30

I don't think it's of 'no importance' Tegan (even though it must feel like it to Northerners) I think it's just a very slow process. I've been using the A1 regularly since 1972; upgrading started about 40 years ago, going south to north, and it's been a very long process (but continual). It's taken 40 years to get to Newcastle, at this rate another 20 to get to Edinburgh...

durhamjen Mon 24-Jul-17 09:31:57

Our kids car mantra wasn't, "Are we there yet?"
It was, "Are we still on the A1?"

whitewave Mon 24-Jul-17 09:45:36

I can't for the life of me remember the road but last spring 2016 we returned to the South from the Dales, and I think there was a 50 mile restriction the whole way. It took us hours! Particularly as I was driving at the time in a sever thunder and rain storm and went up a turn off by mistake because visibility was so poor!!!!

MaizieD Mon 24-Jul-17 09:51:46

Sounds like the A1, ww.
Mind you, the M1 is almost as bad.
Both of them are an absolute pain to use.

gillybob Mon 24-Jul-17 09:57:28

Parts of the A1 still bring single carriageway . It's unbelievable when you think about it. The main road linking NE England to Scotland ! The road is very busy with farm traffic and various very dangerous crossovers. Many motorists take huge risks to overtake ( say) a slow moving tractor etc.

durhamjen Mon 24-Jul-17 10:20:29

labourlist.org/2017/07/barry-gardiner-customs-union-membership-could-be-a-disaster/

Back to Brexit.

MaizieD Mon 24-Jul-17 10:50:39

Interesting comments on that piece, jen!

This Brexit is tearing everyone and everything apart.

newnanny Mon 24-Jul-17 11:08:32

We could all buy British whenever we can. That way less imports needed. Only a little thing but something we can all do and I have already started. No more French brie and goats cheese I am buying Somerset brie and Welsh goats cheese.

gillybob Mon 24-Jul-17 11:16:15

Its my Rioja I am worried about newnanny happy to buy everything else British (where possible).

Oh BTW apparently there's going to be a huge butter shortage at the end of the year.

durhamjen Mon 24-Jul-17 11:22:25

Agree, Maizie.
I still can't see how anyone thinks we are going to get anything out of leaving the EU, and it is going to cause far more problems overall.

There was a list of the trade we do with all other countries. We can possibly double US trade providing we accept chlorinated chicken, hormone fed beef, and GM food.
I'm not sure that is the sort of improved trade anyone here wants.
The EU has banned all those.