I Will Deal With It

can not can't

So who are you Darnsarf - her mother?

I have watched her and she keeps re-posing exactly the same questions leading people round and round in circles. She has had her answers.

1. May dropped the policies because she knew she could not get a majority.
2. This does not mean she has dropped the intention of bringing in these policies.
3. This does not mean the Conservatives have suddenly become the caring party who believe all levels of income should have shouldered the burden of austerity with the widest shoulders, who generally benefited from the issues which caused the global meltdown, paying by far the most as they will not be destitute or end up having to sell there homes to pay for their care.
4. On the grounds that the scorpion always does the same thing because it is it's nature, May and the Tories will return to beating up the poor and less able as soon as they cant.

So, while these policies not having been put into action is a good thing it may well be short-lived and it is no thanks to May.

Patronising and arrogant in 6 posts.
Is that a record?

Is *Smileless playing her games again?*. No GracesGranMK2, she's just posting her opinion, which whilst it differs from yours, is everything bit as valid and interesting as anyone else's. Why would you say that games are being played? How arrogant can you get?

Is Smileless playing her games again?

Careful, Maizie, you'll be accused of being patronising.

You mean the same Alan Sugar who supported May in the election is trying to find something to attack Jeremy Corbyn with. Well I'll go to the foot of our stairs.

May has had to drop these manifesto 'pledges' because she doesn't have a majority. If she'd got the land-slide she was confidently expecting she would have pushed on with them.

It's a good thing they were dropped because they were worthless policies.

"erm because that's the side we're on ... I'm sure if we said we felt sorry for Tories having to scrap so many policies we'd be accused of patronising". Yes, I'm sure you would dj because you would be patronising wouldn't you.

So, a political party you do not support, drops policies you don't agree with and you cannot bring yourself to say 'that's a good thing' regardless of the reasons why the policies have been dropped "because that's (not) the side (you're) on"

Think he should send a message back. "I am not the Apprentice I am not fired. Stick to TV, Alan"

Has anyone seen the tweet Alan Sugar has sent to Corbyn
"I think you should step down and let someone else rescue the Labour Party.
You got votes with false promises"

I wonder if Labour will call an opposition day debate on abolishing student fees when parliament returns. It sounds like a clever thing to do to me.

Smileless The Labour Party did not support the Conservative policies on the fuel allowance and the dementia tax. The fact that they have been abandoned now does not mean they cannot be resurrected - because the intention was to bring them in and it was only thwarted because they didn't get an overall majority - and my understanding is that the DUP wouldn't support the Conservatives on this. It doesn't signal a genuine change of heart so why should opposition parties and supporters give the Conservatives credit for their actions?

Regarding primroses statement about Imran Hussein.

skwawkbox.org/2017/07/25/tories-latest-studentdebt-attempt-is-frankly-embarrassing-for-them/

Read it and try to take it all in, primrose.

Erm - because that's the side we're on, Smileless.
I am sure if we said we felt sorry for Tories having to scrap so many policies we'd be accused of being patronising.

I agree Eloethan but why does "point(ing) out other reasons for this about-turn" have to be viewed by the opposition as a u-turn which in political rhetoric is a negative, when the about-turn for those who disagreed with the proposals is a positive?

Smileless it is expedient for the Conservatives to drop these policies now but, should they be returned to power with an overall majority in the next election, there is nothing to stop them reinstating them again. People may well be relieved that these policies are not going ahead but it is natural - and I think right - that opposition parties and their supporters express their cynicism re the abandonment of these policies.

You can think what you like Primrose and so can everybody else. People of different political persuasions tend to interpret differently the words of the politicians they like/dislike.

Speaking as a Labour supporter, I am inclined to think Corbyn and his team are more likely to strive for the rights of the average person than Conservative politicians so that naturally affects my views as to who I believe is more sincere in their efforts to improve the lot of the average person.

Smileless I believe that political commentators are widely of the view that the reason the government has abandoned the dementia tax and fuel allowance proposals is because they know they would not win a vote on it in the House of Commons - additionally they have become aware that they cannot afford to alienate their core voters - the over 60's. If the Conservatives and their supporters are trying to push the idea that the party has changed its position because it is responding to the wishes of the people, it is natural that opposition parties will point out other reasons for this about-turn.

Labour did quite well considering they were supposed to lose lots of seats and Corbyn was going to be booted out. Now the MPs who supported that are crawling to him for jobs on the front bench.

And even after all that, Labour lost the election. I agree the Tory manifesto seemed to be designed to put off as many people as possible from voting Tory. Even with that gift, Labour lost.
That's one reason I'm unhappy with JC.

Primrose, the OP asked what we understood "I will deal with ..." to mean. It is clear that some of you have chosen (wrongly in my opinion, but that point's already been argued to death) to interpret it as "I will do ... ", and are highly critical of Corbyn because of it. On that basis, I really can't see why it is wrong to use this thread to compare that interpretation with the many unequivocal "I will / will not do... " statements made by TM or any other party leader that have proved untrue.

A free vote will be given to MPs on a government bill in government time to repeal the Hunting Act.

Conservative manifesto.

On the contrary, I'm delighted they've been dropped!! As I'm sure are many other GNers.

Yes, another proposal dropped after the election just as the proposals regarding the dementia tax and winter fuel allowance were dropped but heaven forbid that those opposed to those proposals would simply be grateful that they've been dropped.

"open to considering" is even less specific a promise than "I will deal with it"