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TM and THAT dress

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MawBroon Wed 26-Jul-17 07:02:22

OK I am being sexist, but that Next dress on the front of today's DT really got my day off to a bad start. Fair enough, her pins are pretty good, but a woman of her age does NOT IMO wear a little pink shirt dress suitable for a girl/woman less than half her age several inches above the knee.
Girlish? Yuk!
Say what you like about Michelle Obama or Sam Cam but they knew how to look elegant, whether formally dressed or smart casual.
(Brigitte Macron is another whose determination to look "young" irritates me.There is such a thing as trying TOO hard. )

durhamjen Fri 04-Aug-17 17:56:23

Not in his shell suit.

i.guim.co.uk/img/media/166ee1ac125753c873142af970a934bcfe8a45d3/0_26_1200_720/master/1200.jpg?w=620&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=341f97aa9157c49a70da4d6abc3c3a01

Jalima1108 Fri 04-Aug-17 17:21:04

There were fires in Croatia the other week, houses burned in Split. We have been there when the hillsides have been on fire, very frightening.

petra Fri 04-Aug-17 17:18:25

jalima
I hope he's not giving his nylon shell suit an airing grin

whitewave Fri 04-Aug-17 17:06:24

The whole of the Mediterranean is having this dreadful heatshock there is no pleasure is such high temperatures imo.

I was reading yesterday that once the temperature rises above something like 32c you body begins to struggle. We are incredibly lucky in the UK.

Jalima1108 Fri 04-Aug-17 16:04:59

he is on a cycling holiday in Croatia

Up and down the mountains? In 45C heat shock

Anniebach Fri 04-Aug-17 16:02:48

Yes Jen, and you are one of the first to point them out but you defend Corbyn.

Jalima1108 Fri 04-Aug-17 15:45:00

Oh, new style font didn't italicise!

Jalima1108 Fri 04-Aug-17 15:44:26

I presume you all know what the farmers are paid for your coffee brand.
All we can do is our best, but I am not a coffee importer, just a person who drinks one cup of coffee a day. And I have bought coffee direct from the plantation before now and I know that the workers are paid a good wage and other benefits.

The most stark example is the recent controversy over Fairtrade and the payment of a living wage to coffee workers on smallholder farms in Ethiopia and Uganda. Research from SOAS, found that the Fairtrade Foundation is unable to ensure that all workers get paid a living wage. Most coffee is produced by smallholders who employ some workers - the latter tend to be the worst paid. This is partly because their employers are poor themselves, and also because it is hard to police what happens on thousands of tiny farms.

Fairtrade Foundation standards do not regulate wages if a smallholder employs less than a “significant number” of workers, which is generally interpreted to mean 20. If they employ fewer than 20, they aren’t even required to pay the legal minimum wage.

durhamjen Fri 04-Aug-17 14:46:10

Other people are hypocrites, too, about where they stand.

Anniebach Fri 04-Aug-17 14:43:55

For me it's his hypocrisy and he lies

petra Fri 04-Aug-17 14:29:04

Corby: the gift that keeps on giving. Anyone could choose whatever subject they wanted and I could bring a negative slant on Corbyn in to it.
I despise and loath the man.

Anniebach Fri 04-Aug-17 14:27:52

And an excuse isn't needed surely?

Anniebach Fri 04-Aug-17 14:26:51

Corbyn isn't above criticsm surely ? There are posts defending him too.

Ana Fri 04-Aug-17 14:16:36

Why not? It seems that any excuse is good enough to criticise Theresa May.

Ilovecheese Fri 04-Aug-17 14:14:46

So, we're back to any excuse to criticise Jeremy Corbyn, even on a thread about clothes

Anniebach Fri 04-Aug-17 13:36:10

How can a photograph of a step mother sitting next to a step son be taken as proof they get on well together . Suppose she is hesrerr in age to his eldest son than to her husband, not sure.

So he is too busy to issue any comment on Venezuela because he is on a cycling holiday in Croatia , didn't look like he had socks with his shorts, looked very lonely though. I read recently an interview he gave a few years ago, seems he could never have a friend who wasn't of the far left.

durhamjen Fri 04-Aug-17 12:45:13

All you have to do is google Laura Alvarez and you will see lots of photos of her and her dress sense.
She's not hidden at all. It just gives you an excuse to criticise her.

Elegran Fri 04-Aug-17 12:11:24

From dj's link "The coffee brand Café Mam [Mrs Corbyn's brand] which was featured in the article is not a Fairtrade licensee and is affiliated with a different certification body. However Indigenas de la Sierra Madre de Motozintla (ISMAM), the producer co-operative in question, does sell very small volumes of coffee on Fairtrade terms. Unfortunately it seems the resulting return for their hard work is not enough to cushion them against the knocks they currently face.

In the past, ISMAM’s Fairtrade sales have provided higher incomes for farmers, technical assistance and training in organic production and sustainable farming.

Furthermore, the article doesn’t provide a like for like comparison of the final coffee price. The article compares roasted coffee vs the coffee delivered by the producer, which only has part of the process, leaving further processes without consideration (dry milling, roasting, packing, transportation, etc.).

If you buy wheat, say, grind it into flour and bake it into bread, there are a lot of processes in between harvest and final product to be paid for as well the sacks of grain. Same is true of coffee from bean to jar.

gillybob Fri 04-Aug-17 12:11:15

Exactly Anniebach and after the storm that brew up by TM by wearing a perfectly nice, short linen casual, dress whilst on holiday I don't see why we shouldn't comment on the leader of the opposition and his hidden wife's dress sense .

durhamjen Fri 04-Aug-17 12:08:18

The photos I've seen, Maggie, always show her looking very smart.
She obviously gets on well with Corbyn's sons, too.

Anniebach Fri 04-Aug-17 12:04:12

How can anyone comment on her frocks , she is never seen.

Elegran Fri 04-Aug-17 12:03:17

Thrown mud is very hard to clean off. The stains remain even when the solid lumps are gone and the thrower proved to have been trying to soil their target.

Maggiemaybe Fri 04-Aug-17 11:54:46

It still surprises me that tabloid smears enter the public consciousness so easily. Anyone got any comments about Ms Alvarez's frocks?

durhamjen Fri 04-Aug-17 11:34:23

www.fairtrade.org.uk/Media-Centre/News/August-2015/Response-to-Mail-on-Sunday-article-on-devastating-impacts-of-La-Roya

durhamjen Fri 04-Aug-17 11:32:09

I presume you all buy Fairtrade organic coffee?

www.fairtrade.org.uk/Farmers-and-Workers/Coffee

The price she paid the coffee farmers was based on Fairtrade prices, and has nothing to do with selling 500g of coffee beans for £10 in this country. She doesn't sell jars of coffee.

I presume you all know what the farmers are paid for your coffee brand.