Gransnet forums

News & politics

Government Watch - 2

(967 Posts)
whitewave Wed 26-Jul-17 13:27:27

Very much needed.

First happy thing to report.

Unison have won their case making it illegal to charge employees for employment litigation. Introduced by the Tories in 2013.

The judges quite rightly said it was wrong to make it difficult/impossible for anyone to resort to law.

Those who paid will be reimbursed.

whitewave Wed 04-Oct-17 10:21:17

Massive U-turn from Thatcher.

What happened to Home owning democracy? Ditched along with anything else that might lose them votes.

Where is the money coming from. Since the election May has spent billion upon billion both in actuality- DUP and in her rhetoric.

They were unable to cost their manifesto -incompetence?-and continue along the same road -wonder what the budget will be like ?

yggdrasil Wed 04-Oct-17 11:28:53

If you agree with what May is offering, vote Labour. It is their policies she is stealing, and they have it properly costed.

whitewave Wed 04-Oct-17 11:51:07

Just watching Mays speech and waiting for the engine of ideas.

whitewave Wed 04-Oct-17 12:06:08

Lots of little tinkering but an absolute dearth of anything substantial.

History lesson looked through the prism of Tory policies. O

whitewave Wed 04-Oct-17 12:12:11

This speech is a disaster absolutely nothing new just a repeat of past speeches -a complete hour wasted.

whitewave Wed 04-Oct-17 12:14:35

I am beginning to feel sorry for her.

whitewave Wed 04-Oct-17 12:23:51

This is a total car crash,

Security a disaster
Speech content a disaster
Deliverance a disaster

But dogged Maybot is programmed to continue.

whitewave Wed 04-Oct-17 12:53:18

I wondere who gave the chap the security pass? Johnson?

Tegan2 Wed 04-Oct-17 13:08:47

Thought they'd already promised to do something about energy prices? But hadn't.

MaizieD Wed 04-Oct-17 13:14:59

Did her speech have the tory faithful leaping up to give her a standing ovation? (Sorry, I rely on reports, can't bear to watch..)

mostlyharmless Wed 04-Oct-17 13:33:20

Disaster of a speech. Can she survive?

whitewave Wed 04-Oct-17 13:36:57

maize she had as you would expect a standing ovation, but it was a sympathy vote.

The content of her speech was completely devoid of anything new, except those ideas put forward by Labour.

So do you remember that Marxist policy of fuel price cap argued for by Labour?- May pinched that
Organ donation change -a labour policy- My pinched that.
Student fees change -which is so tepid it is hardly worth the paper it s printed on- forced on May by Labour
Housing needs recognised but a build of 25k over 5years when 2+million are homeless is pathetic.

Nothing else that springs to mind.

It will not save her

mostlyharmless Wed 04-Oct-17 13:39:25

There were standing ovations at the end and at odd points when she paused for breath between coughing fits. Also a lot of concerned and aghast faces, from her cabinet.
Poor Theresa.
More free schools? Did I hear a hundred new Free schools a year? Does anyone think they work?

mostlyharmless Wed 04-Oct-17 13:42:11

And the letters on the slogan behind her "building a country that works for everyone" slowly fell off. F was the first to fall off!

whitewave Wed 04-Oct-17 13:50:49

How many letters fell off in the end?-I saw 3.

It was pure comedy.

mostlyharmless Wed 04-Oct-17 14:09:22

Constant references to the "British Dream". What is the British Dream?
Owning a home?
Or going to food banks?
Zero hours contracts?
Secure jobs with pensions?
British Empire?
Or Brexit?
Could mean anything.......
or be a totally meaningless sound bite .....

whitewave Wed 04-Oct-17 15:22:25

I see “The Thick of it” is trending grin

durhamjen Wed 04-Oct-17 16:54:13

pbs.twimg.com/media/DLSnjAgX0AAeEqv.jpg

May's P45

nigglynellie Wed 04-Oct-17 17:11:53

For all the mishaps, sneering and back stabbing, TM has one major thing going for her and that is the love, devotion and total loyalty of her husband. No way was that hug and kiss false or contrived. They're genuinely a happily married couple who adore each other through good times and bad , a situation I think a lot of people would give their eye teeth for.

MaizieD Wed 04-Oct-17 17:16:54

And don't forget that she is extremely wealthy, too, nellie. Always a help.

FarNorth Wed 04-Oct-17 17:19:50

"The Bill of Rights is an Act of the Parliament of England that deals with constitutional matters and sets out certain basic civil rights. ... "

GracesGran quoted this. I'm not sure where it's from.

Shouldn't it say "Parliament of the UK"?

FarNorth Wed 04-Oct-17 17:21:21

That's nice for them, nellie.
How is it relevant to her being Prime Minister, and the performance of her government?

whitewave Wed 04-Oct-17 17:21:41

PM radio 4, torn her speech to shreds.

maryeliza54 Wed 04-Oct-17 17:31:54

Why on earth does it matter how happy her marriage is? Completely irrelevant

nigglynellie Wed 04-Oct-17 17:49:21

A happy marriage has certainly helped me through some very tough times. Being able to rely on, confide in and totally trust your partner is a great morale/confidence booster. It's a rarity these days I know so I'm not surprised at the sarkey comments. sad