Government Watch - 2

My comment was not sarkey.
It's lovely for anyone who has a good marriage but how does TM's marriage relate to her being Prime Minister, and the performance of her government?

My point was that how happy her marriage is irrelevant to a political discussion. And what on earth make you think that saying that means anything at all about the state of other people's marriages? Nice to know that you've a happy marriage however, I also think that there are many on here who have or had and certainly in my group of close friends and family there are a lot of happy marriages where the partners rely on, confide in and trust each other. Not as rare as you might care to think niggly

I had a good marriage. My husband and I were equally sarky about the Tory party.
I imagine Phil is just as nasty about Corbyn as she is.

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2017/10/03/is-boris-johnson-trying-to-review-the-nasty-party/

Boris has to go elsewhere in the world to find youngsters who disagree with Corbyn - although I doubt he really asked them.

Things that stick to the wall better than the Tory slogan.

Today will of course soon be yesterday’s news, but I do wonder what balls have been set in motion after today’s disaster.

The biggest problem for the Tories is that there is no one of suitable competence to replace Maybot

Has anyone else noticed that we are hearing more about Britain and Great Britain and less and less about the UK - or is it just me.

Does that mean that Northern Ireland is going to be sacrificed for Brexit?

The British dream....

www.theweek.co.uk/88803/what-is-the-british-dream-twitter-has-some-ideas

Apparently Boris's comment about dead bodies was supposed to be a joke.

news.huffingtonpost.com/t/t-l-khpbk-l-h/

There are some people who think he's just trying really hard to get sacked.

Oohhh that Boris - he's such a wit. And Libya's such a joking matter

This is how the UK government is viewed by the leader of the European People's Party, the largest party in the European parliament.
(Reported by Channel 4 News)

www.scoopnest.com/user/Channel4News/915221405125488640-senior-euro-mp-manfred-weber-says-the-prime-minister-should-sack-boris-johnson

Here's a good marriage.

www.theweek.co.uk/88800/watch-barack-obama-records-moving-25th-anniversary-tribute-to-michelle

I saw that yesterday, FarNorth.
I agree with Weber. Johnson is no good for Brexit or for Britain.

I think Theresa May is not a bad person. I truly believe that she believes she can help people prosper. I also believe that she has not one iota of insight into the issues that 'people have had because this Conservative government choose to not only support the banks but the bankers and all those who continued to take huge amounts of money in salaries while their businesses kept general salaries down and people work, yes, but work for poverty wages.

... and her speech has not changed my views in the least.

Of course she's not a bad person ( that accolade as we all know belongs to JC). But I judge her by what she does as a politician and I'm not impressed. At the moment, not putting a pause on UC that will impact over Christmas is wicked.Thatll do for starters. Calling the last election demonstrated poor judgement. The deal with the DUP expensive and tawdry. Being a bad person doesn't come into it

I think it does maryeliza. I don't think anyone should be put through what her party is putting her through and they are only able to do it because she is trying to do because they know she is fundamentally not a Boris (self-seeking) or a Cameron (cowardly). I may disagree with her politics but that does not mean I want to see anyone going through such trauma.

I'm not disagreeing with you - but I actually don't care that she's not a bad personal ( whatever that means) but I care she's a dreadful prime minister with appalling judgement and it's her choice to be carrying on

Sometimes people are promoted above their capabilities - everyone must have seen that in their working lives. This is probably what has happened here - I assume she was a good constituency MP as she was elected and re-elected.
When she was first made PM and both she and her husband were in the limelight I saw a report that both of them were political and they decided only one of them should pursue a political career and so Philip made another career.
It must be good for her to be able to go home and relax etc with one who understands.
Although I do not agree at all with what she is doing I still feel sorry for her and the position she now finds herself in. Must be difficult to decide what would be her best course of action to get a better life back. It must be a complete nightmare that she is living at the moment - failure at every exit whatever she chooses to do.

I can't be so charitable. I think I'd respect her more if she had the dignity and grace not to take pot shots at JC but to criticise his policies instead.

I certainly think that has happened here Welshwife; I see she is a very good high level administrator but this seems like torture. Obviously none of us can do anything about it - that is down to here and the Conservative party.

I really cannot see disagreeing - intensely disagreeing - with someone's political views while sympathising with what she is going through personally is mutually exclusive.

It doesn't have to be mutually exclusive but for me in this case it is. If I felt she had some real compassion and insight into ordinary people's lives, I might be more sympathetic, but she hasn't so I don't.

Welshwife; 'highest level of incompetance'....a term that's been in the back of my mind for a while. Alas, we have a whole government at this level. I've never known anything like it.

Promoted to the highest level of competence - meaning to incompetence.

Labelled as "the Peter Principle" by Laurence J. Peter (1969).

I think May has definitely been promoted too far. She can't seem to do anything right. Even The Palace are annoyed by her poor grasp of etiquette after the election.

I do feel sorry for her as she is probably doing her best - but her best just isn't good enough to lead the country at a very difficult time.

She is trapped there though. Nobody better seems to be ready for the role and she does seem to have a strong sense of duty so can't resign like her predecessor did.

I didn't realise it was as bad as it was. Fewer than 100 of the 316 MPs attended.

www.indy100.com/article/theresa-may-conservative-party-conference-speech-boris-johnson-michael-gove-7983111

And all the rest of the cabinet members reactions to her speech.
I don't know if anyone was wacthing on subtitles, but the BBC put it in capitals every time she coughed.