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whitewave Wed 26-Jul-17 13:27:27

Very much needed.

First happy thing to report.

Unison have won their case making it illegal to charge employees for employment litigation. Introduced by the Tories in 2013.

The judges quite rightly said it was wrong to make it difficult/impossible for anyone to resort to law.

Those who paid will be reimbursed.

Nandalot Mon 06-Nov-17 13:26:25

And while the rich with their accountants search out ways to avoid tax, many unemployed people are having their local job centres closed. 87 over 7 months. Although some may be relocated to local council offices etc. many are being relocated to other job centres many miles away. e.g. Petersfield to Havant. Shameful.

Welshwife Mon 06-Nov-17 13:31:24

And I see that the arch Brexiterr Redwood is advising people to invest their money in the EU rather than the UK!!!

MaizieD Mon 06-Nov-17 14:06:33

"It's our money, after all, that she's investing".

Sorry, dj, I have to disagree with you on this one. She gets the Sovereign Grant from the Treasury to maintain the institution and constitutional position of the Monarchy. I would be appalled if I thought she was investing that to enrich herself. But it's her private wealth she's investing. It's no more 'ours' than is Richard Branson's or the Duke of Westminster's (unless you subscribe to the doctrine that 'property is theft'.

whitewave Mon 06-Nov-17 14:08:55

Something else to get your head around.

The money given to the DUP in the run up to Brexit - and remember they supported Brexit has links to the Saudis.

whitewave Mon 06-Nov-17 14:10:28

That’s in “open democracy” btw

whitewave Mon 06-Nov-17 14:12:39

I have never known a period of such goings on -ever. I tried to start to list it under various headings and began to blow a fuse. It is incredible.

GracesGranMK2 Mon 06-Nov-17 14:22:46

Theresa May must be lying down in a darkened room by now......

I suppose there is a point where chaos becomes a way of life Mostly, rather like living in a war zone.

Nelliemoser Mon 06-Nov-17 14:36:37

This is shocking Bright House is truly evil. They have now been heavily fined and made to pay compensation.

Their interest rates were appalling and extortionate.
They were targetting the poorest in the town where there is a lot of poverty and many shops boarded up.

There are a lot of furniture out lets in the town, a BHF shop and a church furniture store. Which can provide safe tested 2nd hand white goods and fire safe furniture.

Do schools not teach against this sort of company behaviour or do people really not understand how interest works.

That shop has upset me every time I walk past it in the arcade.
www.theguardian.com/money/2012/nov/23/brighthouse-heavy-price-paying-by-week

"Living on the never never. "
The owners of that brand are greedy buggers ! sad for those victims.

durhamjen Mon 06-Nov-17 15:21:20

You can know where your pension investments are.

www.ethicalconsumer.org

Also, every year you should have an assessment from your financial adviser to find out what your financial interests are, whether you want to take risks, or whether you want to invest ethically or not, and what you mean by ethically, and whether anything has changed.

whitewave Mon 06-Nov-17 15:27:02

BBC reporting that Patel had about 10 meetings including meeting the PM whilst on “holiday” in Israel.

She apologises for not informing the FO. She now needs to apologise for lying.

maryeliza54 Mon 06-Nov-17 15:31:56

I know its hard to keep on being shocked but I truly am by this - the number of meetings, the people in attendance and then LYING about the FO knowing about the whole matter. She is an absolute disgrace and should be sacked immediately - moral bankruptcy doesn't come close to describing her behaviour or that of TM if she doesn't sack her. And then we wonder why there's trouble in the Middle East

maryeliza54 Mon 06-Nov-17 15:33:57

And I don't care whose money ER is investing - she's the Queen and should damn well try and show some leadership and moral standards

durhamjen Mon 06-Nov-17 15:44:13

"The Queen asked ministers for a poverty handout to help heat her palaces but was rebuffed because they feared it would be a public relations disaster, documents disclosed under the Freedom of Information Act reveal.

Royal aides were told that the £60m worth of energy-saving grants were aimed at families on low incomes and if the money was given to Buckingham Palace instead of housing associations or hospitals it could lead to "adverse publicity" for the Queen and the Government.

Aides complained to ministers in 2004 that the Queen's gas and electricity bills, which had increased by 50 per cent that year, stood at more than £1m a year and had become "untenable". "

This was in 2010. If she can put £10 million in a Cayman fund, she can pay her own fuel bills. Strangely enough, I have never been able to separate my public money from my private money. The money I got from the public always went to pay my private bills; it still does.

JessM Mon 06-Nov-17 16:55:10

The queen could even find some ways to diminish or offset her energy bills, one would think... Good post re the awful "Brighthouse" Nelliemoser. They are down there in the gutter with the pay-day lenders. Even if the queen does not have detailed discussions about her investments she is quite within her power to say "Make sure our investments are ethical and that nothing about them could embarrass the monarchy".

durhamjen Mon 06-Nov-17 18:21:35

38 degrees has a petition to ask the government to do something about tax dodging - again, I know.
12000+ signatures today. We need lots of snowflakes to create an avalanche.

durhamjen Mon 06-Nov-17 19:05:15

Boris really needs to go.
Has anyone else been following the case in Iran of Nazanin Radcliffe?

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/new-boris-johnson-blunder-risks-extra-jail-term-for-nazanin-zaghari-ratcliffe-as-may-faces-priti-patel-israel-row_uk_5a00a989e4b0baea2633cc12?utm_hp_ref=uk-boris-johnson

GracesGranMK2 Mon 06-Nov-17 19:34:50

Mentioned it on another thread Jen. The poor women is suffering from depression with no real knowledge about why she was arrested or how long she will actually have to serve. The only thing that seems to be keeping her going is her daughter who has stayed in Iran in the care of her Grandparents. This means her husband is separated from his daughter. I believe the little girl no longer speaks English so is loosing some of her heritage and the contact with her daddy. It was horrifying enough before Boris tried to be clever. He really is a very stupid man.

JessM Mon 06-Nov-17 19:48:12

Boris Johnson really is a menace. That poor woman, stuck in jail, missing her daughter's early years and he opens his massive, arrogant mouth and comes out with something so damaging and unfounded!

durhamjen Mon 06-Nov-17 20:27:53

Her husband has been trying to get the foreign office involved since she was arrested. I have signed all sorts of petitions, for both her and the grandfather who is also in jail in Iran.
I really hope Boris is found to have done something so outrageous that he is dismissed so we can have a foreign minister who cares about something and someone other than his own image.

durhamjen Mon 06-Nov-17 22:22:37

This is quite explosive.

davidhencke.com/2017/11/05/exclusive-supreme-court-ruling-opens-way-for-legal-action-against-michael-gove-and-liz-truss-for-racial-discrimination-and-victimisation/

Could cause the government to collapse.

durhamjen Mon 06-Nov-17 22:26:19

Another government failure.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/grenfell-tower-fire-hotels-victims-families-majority-still-living-temporary-accommodation-government-a8036496.html

whitewave Tue 07-Nov-17 08:24:30

Fox trying to defend the indefensible with regard to Johnson- idiot.

Now defending Patel!

Dear oh dear

JessM Tue 07-Nov-17 09:46:56

He'd have done better to avoid defending BJ as it sounded like he was confirming what Boris said!!!

durhamjen Tue 07-Nov-17 16:26:50

Boris refusing to apologise for what he said, saying it had been misconstrued. He claimed he didn't say that she had been teaching journalism. He is such a liar. It must be in Hansard.

"In fact, Ms Zaghari-Ratcliffe is a project manager with a charity and was in Iran to visit her family for Nowruz, the Persian New Year. She is not a journalist and has never trained them.

Let us be clear about this: Ms Zaghari-Ratcliffe was told at the court hearing that Mr Johnson’s words were being used against her.

But today (November 7) giving his statement in the Commons, he absolutely refused to apologise for his blunder – not once, but many times.

He said he spoke to his Iranian counterpart, Mohammad Javad Zarif, and told Zarif that the government’s view is that Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe was just in Iran on holiday. He said that, when he spoke to the Commons foreign affairs committee last week, he was trying to make the point that, even if Zaghari-Ratcliffe was training journalists, that would not have justified her detention – but added: “I accept that my remarks could have been clearer in that respect.”

He was right – but only because his remarks last week were nothing like his claim about them today. He said: “When I look at what Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe was doing, she was simply teaching people journalism, as I understand it.” He did not say her detention would not have been justified even if she was training journalists."

durhamjen Tue 07-Nov-17 16:31:52

Did anyone watching notice the dearth of government frontbenchers for Boris's statement this afternoon?
The cabinet meeting this morning was cancelled.
I wonder why.