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whitewave Wed 26-Jul-17 13:27:27

Very much needed.

First happy thing to report.

Unison have won their case making it illegal to charge employees for employment litigation. Introduced by the Tories in 2013.

The judges quite rightly said it was wrong to make it difficult/impossible for anyone to resort to law.

Those who paid will be reimbursed.

durhamjen Sat 02-Dec-17 00:11:48

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/mps-criticised-yemen-crisis-debate-parliament-latest-saudi-arabia-a8087876.html

Shows how important MPs think that the Yemen situation is.
May in Saudi at the time, selling arms so they can carry on bombing those poor kids.

whitewave Sat 02-Dec-17 09:23:51

Green -I see those willing to ignore the fact, that the victims in the thousands of pornographic videos, and those subject to being groped, exist and subject to Greens and possibly another high profile ministers unwanted attentions are trying to focus on the ex policemen, saying that they broke the secrets act. Which of course has been admitted that the policeman did nothing illegal.

Of course once again “national interest” is being overlooked in the party interest.

Lack of integrity and hypocracy characterises this government.

Spin, spin

whitewave Sat 02-Dec-17 10:29:08

Yet more of our money down the drain, through this government’s incompetence. Instead of sorting out the problems with the easy coast rail, it has let it fail and is now costing the tax payer 2bn.

Tories just love spending our money on useless projects like the DUP, brexit and rubbish rail franchises.

But they hate spending our money on good and useful things like the NHS, homeless and hungry.

durhamjen Sat 02-Dec-17 14:28:25

Even more of our money into Branson's pockets.

leftfootforward.org/2017/12/virgin-care-just-sued-the-nhs-for-a-fortune-but-the-tories-and-lib-dems-made-it-possible/

Welshwife Sat 02-Dec-17 14:52:20

Do you know who what type of 'court' would have given judgement Jen had it not been settled?

I saw a film ad about UK train companies which are owned by mainly EU companies. The money the Uk companies pay the foreign ones is subsidising the passengers of those countries at the expense of UK travellers. It seems this tendering and buying by other countries will continue after Brexit!!

durhamjen Sat 02-Dec-17 15:26:37

www.keithtaylormep.org.uk/2017/11/29/surrey-mep-outraged-as-virgin-care-walk-away-with-328000-settlement-after-losing-nhs-bid-to-nhs-providers/
I don't know but it would have cost more if it hadn't been settled. This is just one health area. There are five others, so it will cost over £2 million altogether, straight into the BVI.
I hope we are not giving them any money because of the hurricane.
He can pay for it out of tax savings.

durhamjen Sat 02-Dec-17 15:28:29

keepournhspublic.com/news/virgin-threats-net-2m-from-nhs-in-surrey/

durhamjen Sat 02-Dec-17 15:30:22

This is what we were fighting against TTIP for. If, after Brexit, we go in with the US, it will happen more and more.
Companies will be able to sue for lost profits.

durhamjen Sat 02-Dec-17 15:35:14

Whitewave, did you watch the programme by Ian Hislop about the Beeching cuts?

whitewave Sat 02-Dec-17 17:07:27

If it was on ages ago - yes. I think that it was suggested that it was a purely political decision, and nothing to do with either economics or need, but I can’t remember the details.

yggdrasil Sat 02-Dec-17 17:59:04

Whitewave.Re Green.
There seems to have been no illegality here. There were other people who had access to that computer, not least the police who took it away after a highly suspect raid. Now I have no love or respect for any Tory politician, but there is a fair possibility here that it is a set up

whitewave Sat 02-Dec-17 18:09:52

No one s suggesting that there was anything illegal.

The computer was protected by Greens password. The police officer made extant notes at the time of the raid, which luckily as I said still exists. The officer was told to destroy his notes, but he never did.

Now who working in any form of legal service has been advised to destroy their notes!!!!

Did you see the officer? To my mind he seemed a person of eminent integrity!

Easy for the politicians with media backing to deflect the focus isn’t it.

Welshwife Sat 02-Dec-17 18:59:46

The main server will have exact timings for them to see when the files were accessed so it could have been other people but unlikely he would leave his computer on and unlocked for any period of time.

whitewave Sat 02-Dec-17 19:04:07

Would he not have noticed the vast quantity?

Nandalot Sat 02-Dec-17 21:18:01

Whitewave, when the gov. took back the East Coast it was making a healthy profit, given to Branson and it makes a loss. I presume no tax paid as his companies are registered in the Virgin Islands. It stinks.

durhamjen Sat 02-Dec-17 21:42:25

"Sir Peter Fahy, the former chief constable of Greater Manchester police, said the raid on Green’s office and the revelation that pornographic images were found on his computer were incidents that should not happen in a democratic country.

He spoke out after the now-retired detective who examined Green’s computer contradicted the Conservative MP’s claims that he never used it to look at pornography. Asked whether the officer’s intervention was in the public interest, Fahy said: “I think it’s very dangerous territory for a police officer to be making judgments about whether a politician is lying or not.

“That should only happen in a criminal investigation and then, ultimately, is for a court to decide. Police should be extremely careful about making judgments about other people’s morality when it’s not a matter of crime. It’s something really central to our democracy that police are not involved in politics; we are fairly unusual in the United Kingdom in that being the case.” "

But it wasn't going to court. It was being looked at by a member of the department where Green worked when it happened.
It should at least be looked at by an independent person, not someone who attends cabinet meetings with Green.

GracesGranMK2 Sat 02-Dec-17 23:36:30

Theresa May under new pressure as her Social Mobility Tzar and his team quit, accusing her of failing in her pledge to build a fairer Britian. Alan Milburn, chair, said he and his fellow commissioners where walking out.

Alan Milburn says he sees "precisely no chance of making progress", accusing the Government of abandoning Brexit voters.

Tory deputy, former Cabinet minister Baroness Shephard is also leaving.

Blow for PM as social mobility tsar Alan Milburn quits over 'unfair' Britain

durhamjen Sun 03-Dec-17 08:59:38

I could never understand why Milburn worked for the government. Same with Frank Field.
I think the government response must be on a loop, as it's the same for any situation. "We have more to do." Not kidding.

durhamjen Sun 03-Dec-17 09:02:30

He's on Andrew Marr today to explain a bit more.

durhamjen Sun 03-Dec-17 09:04:06

Government says it's making good progress. It must be doing it in secret, then, like Brexit, as the commission didn't know about it.

GracesGranMK2 Sun 03-Dec-17 09:32:01

I think it's a bit like the Pope going to Miramar Jen. When little is possible because of those in government you do what you can where you can so people don't feel abandoned. When what you do becomes a sticking plaster to improve general opinion of that government while achieving nothing concrete, sadly, you have to give up.

durhamjen Sun 03-Dec-17 17:41:14

Why is Hunt being allowed to get away with this, when not even trump can manage to change Obamacare into the private system he wants without parliament giving its agreement.?

skwawkbox.org/2017/12/03/the-questions-hunt-must-answer-on-his-americanised-nhs-plans/

He seems to be the only frontbencher who is not involved in Brexit, probably because this is taking up all his time.
It's evil.
Nobody voted for him to do this to our NHS.

Nandalot Sun 03-Dec-17 19:06:00

Thanks for the link DJen. Really scary.

durhamjen Sun 03-Dec-17 19:08:48

I presume you mean the article, and not just the photo, Nandalot.
Yes, isn't it?
Why have there been so many reorganisations?
The 2013 one was said to be so big you could see it from space.

Welshwife Sun 03-Dec-17 20:10:08

Also what is this rubbish letting Virgin Health sue several Health boards for not giving them contracts? I thought you bid for a contract and either got it or not - other businesses do it all the time and cannot sue because they were not as good in some way as another bidder.