Our country post Brexit

I've only just found out that the RMT Union told it's members to vote leave .

That's strange. Wasn't the RMT banned from the Labour Party by Blair? It's only just rejoined the Labour Party this year, because it supports Corbyn.

They are going to be a bit mixed up from now on, aren't they?

Thanks jen; that really threw me. Just goes to show how confusing everything is at the moment, and how easy it is to get the wrong handle on something just by reading one article.

My feelings are that the whole issue was confused from the start. I voted REMAIN because of my fears for an economy that has been fragile since the 1930's. I do have issues with some EU policies and did not want further integration. Nearly all of Britain's woes are self inflicted due to years of complacency harking back to a time when we were top nation. That time will not come back in or out of the EU. As a country we need to balance our economy more towards manufacturing than services, make our education system fit the needs of the real world.

Lack of competent political leadership across all parties compounded by an electoral system which squeezes the middle ground out has left much of the population feeling forgotten. The referendum was a chance to vote against the political establishment without thinking in the long term. A few did vote LEAVE for genuine sincere and thought through reasons bot not that many.

Within the EU we could have controlled our borders and sent EU citizens back who did not work here. The ECJ rulings in reality rarely conflicted with our own system. The NHS staffing issues are down to our system of nurse training which was fine until before project 2000. The lack of basic skills is due to a drastic reduction in apprenticeships. List is too long but there is nothing on that list where the fault lies outside the UK.

Yes cinders dad.

Iam64 your last post, 08:45, makes me think that you're casting hurtful accusations on Cindersdad, are you implying that she/he is a child, who is writing what her/his father is telling her/him.
Well !! that's rich coming from someone who is quite obviously a man because a woman would never admit her age.

Are you casting aspersions on a typo ("cinders dad" instead of cindersdad?)

Why would a woman not admit to her age?

Illtellhim Have you never typed a space where there wasn't one? A space would have been better than your post.

illtellhim are you serious?! that has to be a spoof post

Aston Martin announces £500m UK-Japan deal. The announcement was made by the company's president and chief executive officer, Dr Andy Palmer, during his visit to Japan as part of the UK delegation accompanying Mrs May.
Good that business can find a way through despite Brexit.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-41093121

Pleased to see the Aston Martin deal.

But this has been facilitated through the EU, the U.K. has not achieved this as an individual state. To do that it would need to be signed up with the WTOnwith very different rules and tariffs.

The negotiations were carried out through the EU with all its clout behind it. It was undoubtedly started some time ago almost certainly before the referendum result.

Brexit would put a stop to that.

Brussels must be tearing its hair out!!

Tories are getting rattled.

Hope you've all got a comfortable seat.

Just seen this article about UK food chain.

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/aug/29/hello-spam-and-tinned-peaches-is-britain-facing-a-brexit-food-crisis?CMP=share_btn_link

Tomohiko Tanguchi, advisor to Shinzo Abi said on R4,
"There is an inherent preference among Japanese industrialists to do business wherever possible in the United Kingdom."
"Mrs Mays trip would give a powerful signal to the world that the two nations can make a difference together"

Good to see the deal for Aston Martin but bad it is no longeR a UK company!
I wonder what the small print says about tax on any components made on mainland Europe. It would be good if it was all made in UK - the problem would be the expertise of workforce to do the work - hopefully enough time to train youngsters before all the older workers retire.

Most Japanese speak English and no European languages so that makes the UK a good starting place.

That's not how the deal is being reported ww. I cannot find any evidence that the EU are involved, or have been involved with this deal - do you have some you could share?
The Japanese are aware of Brexit and have signed a 5 year deal, so I don't know what information you have that suggests Brexit will put a stop to it.

It may well not stop it but AM could have signed a deal where the UK Govt agree to fund any tariffs imposed by the UK not being in the EU. That is what happened with the Toyota deal and it has been made clear that any future extension of the deal may not take place if there are large tariffs to pay and Customs Duty at the end.

primrose

We know the UK can do no trade negotiations as an individual nation until Brexit.

All negotiations at the present time are done through Europe, that's how it works.

It isn't reported like that because it isn't politically expedient to do so.

Once we have left it is likely that we will need to trade through the WTO - this will not be as easy as the Brexiters like us to belief it will be.

???don't think there's are there any positives Whitwave ?!!( not so far anyway !)

This has been reported today, though.

www.theweek.co.uk/88075/hitler-had-correct-motivations-says-japans-deputy-pm

This is quite funny. A newspaper which wanted its readers to vote for Brexit, thereby adding lots more paperwork to the EU, is now complaining about the costs of translating that paperwork.

www.theweek.co.uk/eu/88088/eu-overspends-its-translation-budget-by-3m