Our country post Brexit

Cardiffjaguar
Added to that, a lot of eu countries aren't happy with Germany because of their stance on massive exports and not importing enough.

My two labour MEPs care about their constituents. They care about other things as well, such as the EU residents in the UK, employment rights for those in the UK and have lots to do with environmental issues.
They have not been thinking of the euro at all, and I have no idea where you get that from.

Jen I wish they would think about the Euro once in a while. I think about the Pound/Euro rate every month. We have lost 30% of the value of our pittance of a UK pension since the Referendum. It says a lot when five years work in Switzerland gets you more than 50% of the value of 35 years working for a pension in the UK.

Actually, a lot of ours disappeared when it was with Rothsclild Asset Management.
I'm sure I remember someone else worked for them, so I read. Oh yes, Jacob Rees-Mogg.
I'd be surprised if that had anything to do with the euro. He thinks that being a manager in an asset management company has no conflict with being on the treasury select committee!

A new customs deal after Brexit could cost companies £4 billion.

www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/publications/implementing-brexit-customs-september-2017

A strange thing to vote for. Sorry, though, whitewave, can't see anything positive in it.

From the Mail but by Michael Heseltine.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4869276/The-big-Brexit-immigration-myth-monumental-deception.html?ito=email_share_article-bottom

Did he say anything like that before the referendum? I can't remember seeing him involved.

Yes he did speak up.
All he sees now is a big yearly wad coming to an end. Although I don't think loosing £300,000+ a year will make much difference to his life.
At least we can see where our money went, Thenford Garden, but, you have to pay to see them.
He just got it finished in time, didn't he?

Heseltine has always been in favour of cutting migration. I have never heard him say we need it, like he does in Welshwife's link.

All he sees now is a big yearly wad coming to an end. Although I don't think loosing £300,000+ a year will make much difference to his life.

What you have absolutely no idea about, petrais what the farm subsidy Heseltine receives is actually spent on. It's purpose is for helping farmers to carry out good practice in conservation, land maintenance and biodiversity. Most farmers would go under without it.

Unless you can prove to me that it all goes into Heseltine's pocket and isn't spent on his farm holdings I assume that you're just being petty minded.

I thought the politics of envy was the province of Labour voters...

Hell! Dreadful typos...

petra is..

Its purpose...

EU citizens living in the UK don't even have to wait for Brexit to be discriminated against.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/sep/11/no-europeans-need-apply-growing-evidence-discrimination-uk-brexit

The debate on the European Withdrawal Bill has started - on BBC Parliament.

He is pointing out though how immigration numbers could have been controlled for a long time.

I watched some of the debate this afternoon. Interesting how few MPs were there really.

They all usually pile in before the vote, which is at midnight.

They seem to be getting repetitive and boring now.
Caroline Lucas's speech was very good.

"The motivation of the opposition is to bring down the government."

Isn't that the purpose of the opposition?

The purpose of an opposition is to hold the government to account, not to bring them down.

If holding them to account brings them down, so much the better for the opposition.

It is perfectly legitimate for the Opposition to bring a government down. It has happened several times over the past few hundred years...

Are you a believer in the Divine Right of governments, CardiffJaguar?

This government definitely is, Maizie.

^The purpose of an opposition is to hold the government to account, not to bring them down

Who told your that CardiffJaguar?

I do get fed up with the 'this is what I want to be true therefore it is true statements.

It is a fundamental principle of the British constitution that the Government must retain the confidence of the legislature as it is not possible for a Government to operate effectively without the support of the majority of the legislature. A no confidence vote was last successfully used on 28 March 1979, when the minority government of James Callaghan was defeated in a confidence motion which read "That this House has no confidence in Her Majesty's Government".

So, okay for the Tories to bring a Labour government down but, according to CardiffJaguar, it is wrong when it is the other way round - because that is how she want is to be and let's go hang the constitution.

Oh well. The power has now been handed to the government.

They really ought to be careful what they ask for as just think what Corbyn will be able to do with those same powers

Mind you anyone having those powers is a worry!
Maybe Parliament hopes to amend that section as it progresses through - I imagine it does not take effect immediately.