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whitewave Tue 01-Aug-17 07:49:36

I thought I would start this thread to enable those who are enthusiastic Brexiters, to educate us Europhiles and show that our worries are silly and uniformed.

We hear so little from you, except to criticise our worries.

We have so many threads about the negative effects why not have one which shows the positive effects that leaving the EU will come about?

whitewave Tue 12-Sept-17 17:40:00

HoL amendments? They may take note of those I suppose. I'm just wondering how long the HoL are willing to keep returning the bill for amendment? I honestly can't see them ignoring Salisbury.

Welshwife Tue 12-Sept-17 17:45:43

Just found this article

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/sep/12/theresa-may-multiple-rebellions-eu-withdrawal-bill-conservative-mps?CMP=share_btn_link

durhamjen Tue 12-Sept-17 18:11:08

But the DUP are supporting May's choice for the committees which means she will be able to get all her plans through.
If they had wanted amendments, they should have voted for it last night.

Welshwife Tue 12-Sept-17 18:27:07

I think quite a lot need to go through Parliament though - esp if Gina Miller gets her way over the money to the DUP etc.

GracesGranMK2 Tue 12-Sept-17 18:53:04

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/sep/12/theresa-may-eu-withdrawal-bill-brexit-stance-conservatives

GracesGranMK2 Tue 12-Sept-17 18:58:01

Cheer up! They were always going to win that one but there are Tories who don't like them taking Parliaments powers either and the LP certainly don't!

news.sky.com/story/parliament-supports-eu-withdrawal-bill-but-threat-of-brexit-rebellion-remains-11031615

GracesGranMK2 Tue 12-Sept-17 18:58:45

www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2017/sep/11/eu-withdrawal-bill-vote-boris-johnson-refuses-to-rule-out-free-movement-staying-during-brexit-transition-politics-live?page=with%3Ablock-59b70d82e4b03c091fa4c546

We shall see young Boris!

GracesGranMK2 Tue 12-Sept-17 19:00:40

Don't listen to the nay-sayers! The fight is on

citywire.co.uk/wealth-manager/news/mps-rush-to-amend-brexit-bill-following-early-morning-vote/a1048424

durhamjen Tue 12-Sept-17 19:59:48

I read that Boris has gone to the BVI to offer them £350 million a week!

durhamjen Tue 12-Sept-17 20:02:52

rochdaleherald.co.uk/2017/09/11/boris-promises-350m-per-week/

GracesGranMK2 Tue 12-Sept-17 20:10:14

The Dutch King goes, the French President goes and we send Boris.

durhamjen Tue 12-Sept-17 23:53:01

Trump hasn't been yet, has he? He says he's going on Thursday.

Welshwife Wed 13-Sept-17 09:48:38

Article written by a Minister that resigned

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/sep/13/brexit-wont-solve-issues-that-led-to-leave-vote-says-mark-price-ex-trade-minister?CMP=share_btn_link

durhamjen Wed 13-Sept-17 21:18:34

Makes you wonder how many MPs would like to resign from the front bench, but daren't say so. Easy for a Lord to do it.

Toyota saying they are not going to hang around waiting for three years for the Brexiteers to make up their minds.

Welshwife Wed 13-Sept-17 21:45:01

Not looking good for Vauxhall either.

petra Wed 13-Sept-17 22:08:04

The German car industry are more worried.
In 2016 almost one in three cars bought in the uk were German built, that's 810,000 cars.

durhamjen Wed 13-Sept-17 23:15:45

Why will people not buy German cars? They are usually from the top end of the range, bought by people with money. They'll still be able to afford them even with an extra 5% tax on them.
The problem is with exporting cars from here to the EU.
We import parts, then export the cars, paying duties twice. Why would companies like Toyota and Nissan want to do that when they could easily set up factories in the EU and not have to pay those taxes?

durhamjen Thu 14-Sept-17 00:05:22

Richard Murphy trying to answer your OP, whitewave.

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2017/09/13/who-has-got-an-upside-from-brexit/

MawBroon Thu 14-Sept-17 05:36:29

Something to look forward to

Serkeen Thu 14-Sept-17 05:40:27

Good morning Mawbrown glad its not just me up at this hour. Husband woke me up with his clattering in the kitchen and now here I am at the laptop smile Hope you have a good day

loopyloo Thu 14-Sept-17 08:12:46

Serkeen, hope you have a happy day.

Welshwife Thu 14-Sept-17 08:22:09

Trouble is Jen some parts go across the borders about nine times before the car is finished and sold wherever. It is not just the assembly plants but the suppliers of the parts. Bosch are big in car parts - making some of the large parts such as brake components etc - not sure about whether this have many plants in UK but they are really big in the industry. GM do use them for all sorts of parts.

Welshwife Thu 14-Sept-17 08:30:35

Interesting article Jen

durhamjen Thu 14-Sept-17 08:41:33

You've just reminded me my local garage is a Bosch garage, Welshwife. My car's a Renault, so a good mix of EU parts.

Someone I know had a job at Ford's going around the EU finding the best places to set up Ford factories. I doubt they will be coming back to the UK now.

durhamjen Thu 14-Sept-17 08:43:20

Welshwife, have you read the comments on that article?
There are so many intelligent people on there that any attempt at trolling gets short shrift. That's one of the things I like about that site.

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