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Baggs Sun 13-Aug-17 12:22:47

Check out the similarities:

twitter.com/renoir_jones/status/896633899413098496

Baggs Mon 14-Aug-17 16:46:15

Exactly, annie.

Meanwhile the person accused of killing someone and injuring others at the rally has been arrested and not allowed bail. Justice is being done with due process.

Anniebach Mon 14-Aug-17 15:35:45

Trump is being critcise fir not condemning the far right mob in America, he just condemed both sides.

He has done what Corbyn does has he not?

Anniebach Mon 14-Aug-17 14:27:01

Terri, with my level of spelling I wouldn't notice.

I grew up in a South Wales mining valley, remember clearly communists held meetings and labour held meetings , cannot recall a Tory held meeting ? I do remember a woman putting a photograph in her front room window,don't know why, but remember a new window being fitted. There was such hatred for him in mining communities because of his decision during the Tonapandy riots to send in the army, no I wasn't around in 1910?

TerriBull Mon 14-Aug-17 13:49:48

Thanks for the insight Annie, I see I have spelt "misogynist" with y and i in the wrong places, so I've corrected it, in case I get pulled up that blush.

Anniebach Mon 14-Aug-17 13:34:18

If far left then certaintly not "new men" , there was a time when there was just socialists and communists , now some communists say they are on the left. Communism has become a dirty word.

TerriBull Mon 14-Aug-17 13:20:58

Correction I need to downgrade the comment from mysoginist, she said "sexist"

TerriBull Mon 14-Aug-17 13:17:42

Not quite sure what thread to place this nugget, from the Evening Standard, Jess Phillips brands left wing men the worst mysoginists. She's in there at the sharp end so I presume she knows what's she's talking about. Just wondering why this could be confused thought they would all be "new men" Any thoughts commrades ?

Anniebach Mon 14-Aug-17 11:55:43

True Primrose, so true . Venezuela, Cuba, Russia = utopia, what's a few bullets and incarceration against the danger of free speech, love the tee shirt,

Eloethan Mon 14-Aug-17 11:45:20

Indeed there is Elegran.

Elegran Mon 14-Aug-17 11:02:19

"animosity between two groups of people who have different economic backgrounds and interests, and different political affiliations." There's a lot of it around.

Primrose65 Mon 14-Aug-17 10:59:09

Of course Annie ! Let's support someone who

promotes mass social welfare programs
has the crowd chanting at mass rallies
has a focus on engaging the youth
uses iconography
is a leader who is above reproach and can do no wrong
wants to government to control everything

There's obviously something wrong with us.

Anniebach Mon 14-Aug-17 09:02:05

Saying anything against Mogg is critical analising, saying anything against Corbyn is Corbyn bashing ?

rosesarered Mon 14-Aug-17 08:10:57

Both Trump *and *Corbyn should have the guts and the morality to condemn those in Virginia and Venezuela.

rosesarered Mon 14-Aug-17 08:08:48

.....and here we have another poster denying that what Maduro is doing is wrong, 120 protesters killed, so what does it matter, if they are being killed by Socialists!Those protesters probably deserved it right? Oh Eloethan will you carry on defending Maduro and Corbyn even when your better judgement must tell you otherwise.
Wrong doing is wrong doing no matter which side politically you are on.

Eloethan Mon 14-Aug-17 00:45:27

The situation and events in Virginia and Venezuela have very little in common. A mob of white supremacists making nazi salutes and shouting nazi slogans is different from the unrest in Venezuela which has resulted from animosity between two groups of people who have different economic backgrounds and interests, and different political affiliations.

Oscar Guardiola-Rivera who teaches international law and international affairs at Birkbeck College, University of London, recently wrote this in the Guardian regarding the situation in Venezuela:

"The right wing opposition can’t rally a majority beyond the middle-upper classes even while many Venezuelans, especially the poorer, suffer from very real shortages and economic hardship. Why? There’s only one sensible answer: the majority of them fear the return of the right wing to power more than the alleged incompetence of Maduro. They know that if the current opposition leadership comes to power, backed by the likes of Trump and the notorious former Colombian president Álvaro Uribe Vélez, the result would be austerity and most likely a civil war as devastating as that of neighbouring Colombia."

Of course, not everyone will agree with this analysis but it is a perfectly respectable point of view and one that other reputable commentators also put forward.

I doubt that many respected commentators would put forward the view that what happened in Charlottesville was not primarily caused by fascists who wanted to intimidate and incite violence against non-white people. Even the republicans have admonished Trump for making a statement that appears to let the fascists off the hook by, in effect, blaming both sides for the violence that occurred - even when a person has been deliberately murdered and many others hurt.

These continued attempts by the right wing press and others to discredit Corbyn is, in my view, just another example of the tactics of the Conservative anti-Corbyn smear machine to demonise Corbyn in order to detract from its own record:

"Overall, £2.5m of military goods have been sold to the country [Venezuela] since 2008, including components for military radar, weapon sights and military aircraft engines. In the last year of figures, to March 2016, licences for goods worth more than £80,000 were approved, including equipment for crowd control to be used by law enforcement agencies.........

" ........No 10 has repeatedly criticised Nicolás Maduro’s government for imprisoning opposition leaders. It described the death of at least 120 protesters as a tragedy, and called on the country to respect human rights and uphold the rule of law.........

".........Jo Swinson, the Liberal Democrats deputy leader, said it “smacks of double standards for the Tories to attack the Labour leadership for supporting Venezuela whilst selling arms and security equipment to dictators and regimes with even worse human rights records." [Guardian 11 August]

rosesarered Sun 13-Aug-17 20:49:01

grin indeed...!

Ana Sun 13-Aug-17 20:43:41

Awful smirk as well! grin

rosesarered Sun 13-Aug-17 20:16:55

Awful writing Ana isn't it?

rosesarered Sun 13-Aug-17 20:16:02

Haha! Primrose.... the two are closer than we thought.grin

maryeliza54 Sun 13-Aug-17 20:08:50

The tax return?

Anniebach Sun 13-Aug-17 20:08:19

Well, it wasn't over 36 years ago

maryeliza54 Sun 13-Aug-17 20:03:40

I think so Ana I remember the writing on his tax return

maryeliza54 Sun 13-Aug-17 20:02:22

However Trump is actually POTUS and Corbyn is not PM - quite an important difference

Ana Sun 13-Aug-17 20:01:42

Is that Corbyn's handwriting? confused

Anniebach Sun 13-Aug-17 19:53:15

Primrose , good post