How to lose your staff in 4 easy lessons when you are the Brexit secretary

Not just staff at the top leaving.

"Oliver Robbins, the onetime top official at Britain’s Department for Exiting the European Union, is just the tip of the iceberg of the exodus of officials from the government body created to handle the brunt of divorce.

The department’s only been around for 14 months. Besides Robbins, 124 employees have left and 482 remain, according to the government’s reply to a freedom of information request from Bloomberg. That’s a high turnover that suggests civil servants don’t enjoy working in the department focused on one of the biggest political challenges in decades.

DExEU countered that fewer then five of those officials had left the civil service altogether -- which in turn could be an indication that civil servants could also be passing through to rack up experience and gain rapid promotion elsewhere."

Not getting a seat on a train, JessM? How unusual. I thought there were always lots of seats to be had; you just had to look for them.

Just been reading an article about which groups vote for Labour.
Only 26% of over 65s say they will.
63% of 18-34 year olds.

It makes you wonder where Labour would be now if it wasn't for Momentum.

Brighton is singing "oh Jeremy Corbyn " at the moment it is a joy to behold.

He was at the centre my friend works at volunteering doing refugee lunches etc.

In the Reading Festival there were apparently regular, spontaneous outbursts of chanting "Oh! Jeremy Corbyn" . The Tories have a rapidly ageing and steadily dwindling membership. There was some reprehensible behaviour towards young activists in the 2015 campaign (remember the young man who committed suicide - allegedly as a result of bullying).
DH was on a desperately crowded rush hour train out of Cambridge yesterday. It sounds quite entertaining. There were a lot of people talking about the shocking overcrowding on their commute, and bemoaning the incompetence of the Tories in managing anything. And the star act was apparently Edwin from Monserrat (a long-dreadlocked 50 or 60 something) who was unable to push the refreshment trolley through the throng so treated everyone to his life story instead, in an epic W Indian accent. Made up for not getting a seat.

Do you want a laugh?

evolvepolitics.com/tory-glastonbury-was-an-utterly-shambolic-fail-and-the-pictures-of-the-event-may-make-you-die-cringing/

There won't be one, Maizie.
She doesn't know how to get out of the dilemma, and nobody wants to take the job over from her, not even Boris.

She will give us another referendum in 2019, and we will vote to stay in.
Like David Davis said, that's democracy.

The Speech has left me curiously unmoved, Petra.

Apart from begging for another two years grace it tells us nothing. It particularly doesn't tell us what sort of 'Brexit' there will be at the end of it.

MaizieD
I take it 'the speech' didn't cheer you up, then ?
To be fair, there were a few crumbs for the remainers

^lemongrove
It puts a smile on my face to know that people are that angry and there's jack shit they can do^

Speaks volumes for the kind of person you are, too, petra

Can't wait for the next vote, whether parliamentary or referendum.

lemongrove
It puts a smile on my face to know that people are that angry and there's jack shit they can do

Well, Tegan2 if calling others fuckwits is a reaction to hearing a different view to your own, who knows what a poster is really like, in fact, I dread to think.

Maybe a reaction to the constant 'you lost, get over it', which is getting tiresome.

It was 2016 devongirl ?
Maizie fuckwits? You just can't help it can you.Constant insults to those who decided to vote to Leave say far more about you than anybody else.

All I can say is "he who laughs last"

https://www.gransnet.com/uploads/talk/201709/medium-197877-interest-in-eu-since-1990.jpg https://www.gransnet.com/uploads/talk/201709/medium-647108-britons-view-of-importance-of-eu-2006--2016.jpg

These are for all of you who are going to tell me that the awfulness of the EU has been preying on their minds daily from the minute we joined the EEC

You're in the tiny, tiny minority I'm afraid.

Angry fingers, Petra.

And you know as well as I do which year I was meaning to write.

Who knew that so many people loved the EU?

And who knew there were so many f*ckwits around who hadn't given the EU a thought for year and years and then suddenly decided that it was the most evil institution ever created and that poverty and national humiliation was a small price to pay for being out of it.

Don't understand comments from Petra and Lemongrove, are they supposed to be funny?

And why?

Who knew that so many people loved the EU?

Petra ? Was it Corbyn's birthday?

MaizieD
What happened on 24th June 2017 ?

Thanks for the links, durhamjen - most useful. I will ensure they are circulated to as many of my friends and family members as possible.