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Let's not forget Brexit

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Cindersdad Tue 03-Oct-17 19:16:18

I still feel that Brexit is wrong though have no idea how stop it. We get mixed messages on the negotiations, DD says that are going fine but the EU side says otherwise.

There was a protest in Manchester where Lib. Dems., European Movement. Open Britain and other groups made their feelings clear.

Our democracy and standard of living is under threat from dogmatism on both the left and the right.

durhamjen Sun 15-Oct-17 15:00:23

There are some very interesting statistics in it, whitewave, such as those migrants who come here from the EU tend to be much better educated than those UK migrants to the EU.

10% of our IT hires come from the rest of the EU, whereas only 2% of IT workers move to the EU.
We will have problems if they decide they are better off in the EU after Brexit, particularly as IT workers do tend to be more mobile than other groups of workers.

whitewave Sun 15-Oct-17 15:06:22

Yes saw that.

Also service industry is going to get a real hammering.

whitewave Sun 15-Oct-17 15:07:06

No wonder the brextremists don’t want to publish the information.

Day6 Sun 15-Oct-17 15:12:59

How anyone has the energy or inclination to heed every snippet of Brexit news is beyond me!

I quite happily forget Brexit because to follow the negotiations with such intensity is futile.

I am finding getting worked up about any news item fairly futile now, mainly because of the way news is incessant -
on every social media outlet and on TV. It's not that I don't care. I do, quite deeply, until I decided caring and being in the know was bloody exhausting and achieved nothing. I am starting to refrain from commenting too.

Today's hot topic is tomorrow's forgotten event because it's been superceded by something else. Ad infinitum. Same with Brexit talks.

Brexit hasn't happened yet - it's a fe years off happening, but soothsayers from the Remain side tell us over and over again that the future is bleak.

Par for the course.

Remainers are keeping this thread going. Others must have noticed. Leavers know the negotiations are ongoing and are going to be lengthy. Most of us appreciate too that breaking away as we have done is anathema to the Brussels powers that be.

The EU is going to make getting out tough. Biased reporting will try to influence Leavers that they were wrong. Most of us know this. Most Leavers are even more eager to get out of this corrupt political institution.

There are going to be many demands and many arguments and disagreements on a daily basis. As for the effects of Brexit, until it happens much of what is being said is speculation and prediction.

By all means clutch at another gloomy prediction and spread pessimism on a daily basis. Keep the bitterness going. It is your prerogative given you didn't want to leave the EU.

lemongrove Sun 15-Oct-17 15:18:35

For all those on here who pick up another posters spelling mistakes/typos and make fun of the poster for it ( mistakenly thinking that it adds to their own argument and is incredibly funny) I would say watch out as many of you have posted some real howlers on past threads.
The other thing is, that apart from being incredibly boorish to mock spelling mistakes, you don’t know which posters are dyslexic, GracesGranM2 and Anniebach have said that they are, and there will be others.

lemongrove Sun 15-Oct-17 15:20:42

whitewave has found a new word Brextremists and is doing it to death.

durhamjen Sun 15-Oct-17 15:21:40

So what was the point of you wasting your time writing all that, Day6?
You obviously haven't quite happily forgotten all about it, and still have to put your oar in.
You could just leave us to mutter amongst ourselves. It would make you feel so much happier.

durhamjen Sun 15-Oct-17 15:24:02

Such a lovely word, though, rectoric, don't you think, lemon?
Nothing to do with dyslexia.

lemongrove Sun 15-Oct-17 15:25:12

Exactly Day6 but many of them do seem to be enjoying it all, revelling in talking about misery.
Brexit hasn’t happened yet!

lemongrove Sun 15-Oct-17 15:26:11

durhamjen you do your fair share of printed howlers, so give it up.

lemongrove Sun 15-Oct-17 15:28:45

There is a point to writing what we think on here, because many poster other than just a few, do read the posts durhamjen even if they don’t add anything themselves.
You are not just in a cosy little club on any thread.

durhamjen Sun 15-Oct-17 15:31:56

Most EU IT workers are highly skilled and highly mobile.
Any interference in their mobility will mean that many will not consider coming to the UK in the first place.
That will be to the EU's gain and UK's detriment.

whitewave Sun 15-Oct-17 15:33:28

Here is something to cheer everyone up

Labour would be the largest party if there was an election today.

I bet that has brought a smile on everyone’s face.

durhamjen Sun 15-Oct-17 15:33:34

Neither was it anything to do with predictive text, as there is no such word in anyone's dictionary.

whitewave Sun 15-Oct-17 15:37:29

Here is something else to make you giggle.

Brextremists want Hammond sacked because he won’t fork out money on stuff brextremists say won’t happen, because they dismiss it as Project fear.grin

Day6 Sun 15-Oct-17 15:38:31

So what was the point of you wasting your time writing all that, Day6?

To irritate you DJ?

grin

I do find your intensity and indeed the way every article re Brexit is pored over by you and other Remainers quite fascinating if I am honest.

Venting your spleen online at Leavers and all your pro EU gushing makes no difference. We are leaving. You must spend hours gathering scraps of anti Brexit speculation.

Of course you have every right to discuss your views and engage in a bit of group wallowing, but I have the right to point out the futility of it too.

Unless of course there has been a left wing dictat forbidding positive Brexit voices?

As you were....

lemongrove Sun 15-Oct-17 15:42:51

?
Yes, as the good old Daleks used to say ‘resistance is futile’

Day6 Sun 15-Oct-17 15:45:27

Oh and just in case you think I am being entirely facetious DJ, can I remind you of the thread title.

My post is pertinent even if you don't like it.

durhamjen Sun 15-Oct-17 15:46:05

Actually, I've just spent the last couple of hours cuddling my six week old grandson, but he's gone home now.

durhamjen Sun 15-Oct-17 15:47:48

Your post is not pertinent. The title is Let's not forget Brexit. You want us to do just that.

lemongrove Sun 15-Oct-17 15:47:55

So?

lemongrove Sun 15-Oct-17 15:49:54

The politics threads are not simply here for you and a few like minded friends durhamjen they are for everybody with something to say.

durhamjen Sun 15-Oct-17 15:50:49

By the way, lemon, I think you'll find that's from Star Trek, The Borg, not Daleks.

durhamjen Sun 15-Oct-17 15:51:49

But you don't have anything to say, lemon. You even get the quotes wrong.

Day6 Sun 15-Oct-17 15:57:05

The title is Let's not forget Brexit.

Yes DJ.

To be honest I thought it was sarcasm grin !!!

It might do a few of you good to forget Brexit for a while - to go with the flow, to let what will be, be.

I enjoy online debate but you Remainers all sound so desperate as you clutch at straws and fan the fires of misery regarding life as it will be lived in 2021 and beyond. Who knows what lies ahead tomorrow, never mind three years down the line? Life is unpredictable.

I view with interest.

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