"And, isn't it important that those of us who do not favour leaving the EU are doing our best to hold the government accountable for the way they are dealing with brexit, instead of just letting them get away with whatever they like."
But you're not though, are you Tegan? The Government ministers and negotiators packing their cases for Brussels don't think..."Hang on. I must check the Gransnet Remainers Group thread before I go and make notes about the course I must follow."
I am being facetious of course but if you stood back and viewed your reaction (the group reaction) you'd surely see that not one of you is philosophical or prepared to go with the flow. You are all still angry but until it happens you really don't know what you have, if anything, to be angry about. [grin} So many assumptions are being made and you just cannot accept that the vote did not go your way.
Isn't that an awful waste of angst?
Why do I feel that in a few years down the line, once we have left the EU and the Brexit dust has settled, you'll still be picking holes in life and the way it is lived? Isn't life just too flippin' short to be SO concerned that it's not unfolding how you want it to? Fair enough, moan about it but some battles you just cannot win. We can rue so many political decisions, we can be glad that our government gets it right occasionally too, but that's politics and we are stuck with the system we have and have very little hold, if any, over our elected representatives.
This thread is for the benefit of a frustrated group of posters, so they can reassure each other that everything is going to be absolutely disastrous.
They lost the vote so the outcome has to be bad. It just HAS to be.
You just can't see the way every Brexit discussion goes. It has been said in many circles that it's almost as if Remainers WANT the outcome to be bad so they can say "Told you so!".
The process is going to take a while, as we all know, but you pounce on every scrap of pro EU biased reporting to soothe yourselves, and try to convince each other that Leavers are very bad people and so are the people doing the work which will extricate us from the Brussels' stranglehold. They are useless even though you do not know what is going on behind closed doors.
I could liken Remainers here to vultures sitting in trees, waiting for a carcass. You need a carcass to pick over and you haven't got one. You are determined you will have one though.
My tuppence worth, my overview, hasn't added anything much to the Brexit discussion, but that's because I see little point in arguing the toss about imagined scenarios.
I suspect most Leave voters feel the same way. I doubt if there'll be much two-sided discussion until there is something tangible to discuss. In the meantime Remainers, keep fanning the flames of despair.