Why are we leaving?

What xenophobia is that then? I have no idea which country
ck33 comes from but presumed the UK, and that she didn’t want to stay here once we leave the EU.

I think it is the English champagne at breakfast. I forgive her...thank you all the same MaizieD .

Displaying your racism xenophobia loud and clear there, lemongrove

Byeee!

But ...why? Please answer in practical terms, not “Control, sovereignty, freedom will of people” .... .What has the EU done to you personally ? I fear I know the answer and that is why I cannot live here !

Haha! namby pamby will of the people eh?
Actually it’s called a legal referendum and democracy in action.
Too late! We are coming out of the EU.

Brexit is a disaster. I can't bear the namby pamby 'will of the people' stuff which all parties seeem to think locks us into disaster for decades. How wet. We're talking about our grandchildren's future here. We must fight now to say NO BREXIT. Brave up. don't be cowed. It was a badly run unthought through referendum with no sensible safeguards which allowed outright lies to be broadcast in the name of balance. Absolutely outrageous. FIGHT. NO BREXIT. If the young Corbynites had some guts they would make Corbyn change his tack. and except for some raw misogyny I have no idea what is going on in the Tory party they are so conflicted.

Productivity in Q2 was 0.9% higher than a decade ago.

The worse result for 200 years.

Ah I can hear you say -it is worth it -we are heading for the sunny uplands

The Times is reporting that since the referendum this has been the longest period of negative growth since 2011.

Households are enduring the longest period of falling living standards

It hasn’t ended yet.

smithy cheers! Bet you would though. I feel the same about other posts.

WW, I have worked through these posts and conclude that I'm in total agreement with your opinions - I wouldn't have been able to put them over in the same way myself.

lemon your remark saying “start doing deals elsewhere right away” shows your clear misunderstanding of how trade outside the EU works.

This amongst other things is why we are heading for a total disaster.

I urgently recommend that you read the WTO rules and how this will affect the UK.

Why are we leaving? - because a wholly unnecessary referendum took place for political reasons, where people were asked to vote with no proper well-researched information about the alternative outcomes. Because said referendum was turned into an unedifying media circus that helped no-one to become informed about the issues involved. Britain's worst hour I think - wholly embarrassing.

I was on the fence and spent a lot of time researching online for papers from those with differing views, and I came to a conclusion based on that. But it was a close-run thing for me, as indeed was the result nationally.

I think Cameron is a thoroughly dishonest individual to unleash such a farce on the British people, and then slink away to a comfy life with his family. Disgraceful.

More blah blah blah from Remoaners.
Might well be worth not doing a deal with the EU at all.
Save a fortune, and start doing deals elsewhere right away.

So the fallout from the threat of Brexit is beginning to hot up.

We have various countries now objecting to our very early negotiations with the EU

The WTO is not a level playing field, but we are intent on leaving one which ensure a level playing field for business with its much despised rules.

We are becoming a low productivity, low wage and no doubt low regululation economy

There is even less money then we hoped to support us during Brexit

We have become a divided and hostile society

But apparently it is all worth it -personally I think we are being lead by the insane

Who is bitter? Not me.
I am enjoying the sight of Brexiteers being unable to brexit.

Those of you still searching bitterly for reasons for leaving the EU know damn well why millions of people voted OUT.
It has been said over and over again, but you simply can’t accept it.Tough!
Chewbacca hardly worth going on explaining reasonably to those who are unreasonable, is it? ?but well done you, anyway.

Did you vote so that all the financial institutions could move to mainland Europe before we close our borders, maddy?

www.theweek.co.uk/brexit/88835/city-giants-begin-move-to-frankfurt-as-brexit-doubts-grow

Well, at least you're consistent maddy

Well, here I was, looking for an answer....it seems we are leaving because of drones!

I voted to leave and I have seen no reason to change my mind. All the money that we pay into the EU would be better spent here on our people.
I voted out because I think we should control our own borders. I voted no to the common market too.

Surprisingly durham, you're not the only person on GN who has friends, family, loved ones and not so loved ones who are involved in the forces, it's not just you. And yes, I'm saying that drones are not "nasty planes used to kill people" because that's a childish and immature way for an adult to discuss a subject such as this. The only thing you and I agree on here is the culpability of Bush, Blair and Thatcher.

Keep posting your links and snippets that deplore the use of drones if you wish. But I know, that without drones, the mortality rate in Afghanistan, Iraq; Iran and Pakistan would be very much higher for both military personnel and civilians than it is with them. And if I have the choice of sending a soldier into a conflict zone, having had the benefits of aerial intelligence beforehand, I'd take it. For everyone's sake.

In 2015 UNHCR said that there were more civilians killed in Yemen by drones than by Al Qaeda.

There wouldn't be an Isis if Blair and Bush hadn't done what they did.
I know a bit about the forces. I also know a bit about the first Iraq war, where one of my relatives was one of Hussein's human shields.
My brother, brother in law and sister were all in the forces.
I don't think I am doing a disservice to them. I think Bush and Blair and Thatcher did that.
How have I been shown to exaggerate? Are you saying drones aren't nasty planes that kill innocent people?
Tell that to the Syria Campaign and those being killed by our drones in Yemen.

So you would prefer young soldiers to go into ISIS territory would you? Take their chances of stepping onto land mines; dodging snipers? Soldiers don't have aerial vision, so they cant see where arsenals of weapons are being stored but drones can, thus reducing loss of life. Certainly, as in any conflict, there has been loss of civilian life but drones have been able to pick up and identify where civilians are being kept as human hostages by ISIS and that's enabled direct strikes to be made that has saved civilian lives.

But you won't let this rest durham because you don't like being wrong and you don't like it when it's been shown that, to prove a point, you've exaggerated. But in saying that "drones are very nasty aircraft that bomb people", you do a disservice to the military personnel who depend on them to keep you, me and the rest of us safe.