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GPs to ask about sexual orientation

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Baggs Sun 15-Oct-17 07:41:00

In the news today there's a report that GPs are to ask every face-to-face patient over 16 what their sexual orientation is. Nice way to put people in boxes.

In a Times leader today it says this: "The LGBT Foundation, which has been working with the NHS, says only 8% of LGB (lesbian, gay, bisexual; the T is for transgender) people in Greater Manchester have never experienced a mental health problem."

Could the reason for that statistic possibly be that one's sexual orientation being different from one's obvious biology (I chose 'obvious biology' carefully) is the cause of mental health problems? I'm wondering this as opposed to supposing that there is some other (or several other) reason why mental illness is so common in LGBT people. I am not, yet, arguing a case either way; I'm asking a question.

Because the rate of mental illness in non-LGBT people could be just as high for all I know. And because on the surface it doesn't seem like such a strange thing to ask. We know that other animal species experience L, G, and possibly B. So I wonder what their mental illness statistics are like.

Elegran Tue 17-Oct-17 12:40:49

Heterosexual Christians are doing fine, no-one hassles them to be anything else. Non-heterosexual Chrtistians in some communities are not doing so well - they are condemned for their "deviance". Non-heterosexual non-Christians (or non-Muslims etc etc) 'have one less source of pressure on them to conform, but there is still pressure nonetheless.

Non-heterosexuality is at the moment receiving a lot of attention. Fifty years from now the limelight will be off them, they will be accepted everywhere, and people will be wondering what all the fuss in our era was about.

Lentilweaver Tue 17-Oct-17 14:28:04

heterosexual christians sidelined???
when the major christian festivals are public holidays, church leaders sit in the legislature ex officio, and 90% of popular fiction centres heterosexuality??

Maggiemaybe Tue 17-Oct-17 17:12:35

I understand that the Q in LGBTQPlus usually stands for Questioning (sometimes Queer), the Plus covers anything else. That could be, for instance, someone who is intersex or asexual. This was recently explained to me by a young family member, otherwise I wouldn’t have had a clue either!

lemongrove Tue 17-Oct-17 17:25:52

?

starlily106 Tue 17-Oct-17 22:16:49

Going to see a doctor next Monday, wonder if I will be asked?

maryeliza54 Tue 17-Oct-17 22:36:51

Its not coming in until 2019 I understand

Blinko Wed 18-Oct-17 10:42:29

Thanks, Maggiemaybe. Enlightening. It's amazing how many variations there are fit what must surely be a tiny minority of the population. Good points, Elegran.

Btw, my MP has written back in response to my letter of concern about the potential threat to women's safe places from some intact men. Very non committal, he 'supports the right of people to live the life they choose' and feels sure the consultation period will allow concerns about safety to be addressed'. Wishy washy, I call it hmm

Blinko Wed 18-Oct-17 10:44:16

I think my last post relates to another thread broadly on the trans/gender issue. Apologies.

loopyloo Wed 18-Oct-17 10:49:29

Hetero sexual non Christians find it difficult to say they are atheists.

M0nica Wed 18-Oct-17 19:04:37

It is coming in now but the NHS do not expect to have got everybody on the record until 2019. They seem to think that by then they will have 100% coverage hmm

maryeliza54 Wed 18-Oct-17 19:05:08

Haha

gma Wed 18-Oct-17 19:45:27

Marieeliz....my hairdressers mum, aged 80, asked her what oral sex was...........quick as a flash, she answered......well that’s when you just sit and talk about it!!! Brilliant reply.

PamelaJ1 Wed 18-Oct-17 19:50:26

One of my clients told me today that she was asked if she is still sexually active last week. She's 93.

Bridgeit Wed 18-Oct-17 20:15:35

In a bid to be all inclusive & anything goes etc, we are actually labelling & pigeon holeing people more than ever before. Why can't we just be accepting of each other without the need to know every aspect of another human being & the way they choose to live without giving it a bunch of letters as a title, expression, description etc. If I had to have letters to describe my orientation they would be MOG ( miserable old git , or SIAB (seen it all before) what would yours be?

M0nica Wed 18-Oct-17 22:46:42

I am currently being treated for carpal tunnel syndrome. Can anyone explain how knowing my sexual orientation will contribute or improve my treatment for this problem?

maryeliza54 Wed 18-Oct-17 23:14:58

Half of all health and social care bodies would be monitoring patients’ sexual orientation by April next year and all are expected to do so by April 2019.

This is what I believe the situation is

Charleygirl Thu 19-Oct-17 09:38:06

I was at my GP surgery yesterday and thankfully I was not asked. I may reply that I was hetero sexual yesterday and today but I have no idea about tomorrow.

Lentilweaver Thu 19-Oct-17 10:05:11

I don't understand why people are so resistant to this, it's not like they are asking about your sexual practices. Until recently your sexuality was pretty much assumed from your formal title, if you were a woman.

Elegran Thu 19-Oct-17 10:34:21

Perhaps they are resistant on behalf of the young people who have not yet settled in their own minds what their sexual orientation is and could be wrongly labelled for life by what they answered on a particular day.

Or perhaps because there isn't much in our lives that is not known to bureaucracy and they are hanging on to what little remains.

Granny23 Thu 19-Oct-17 12:45:46

What about asexual, onanist, celibate?
Think I would tick the 'None of the Above' box.

Bridgeit Thu 19-Oct-17 18:41:46

Had to look that up Granny23, well I never !! ?

Blinko Fri 20-Oct-17 06:29:29

You could always say, 'I'll tell you mine if you'll tell me yours...' grin

Nelliemoser Sat 21-Oct-17 00:56:46

Did you hear about the man who called his Parrot Onan because it was always spilling his seed?

Liz46 Sat 21-Oct-17 07:10:30

Years ago, when my OH and I went to give blood, the doctor asked me if my husband had ever had sex with another man. My OH had spent his career in the forces and at the time was quite homophobic (I have beaten that out of him now). I burst out laughing and said 'he is over there, go and ask him if you dare'.