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Anniebach Sun 22-Oct-17 08:49:58

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/20/labour-mp-clive-lewis-apologises-for-get-on-your-knees-comment

This as the Labour Party conference , a momentum fringe meeting.

Corbyn attended Momentum fringe invites but turned down Friends of Israel invite.

Very Donald Trump isn't it?

Primrose65 Sun 29-Oct-17 13:08:04

Annie I'm going out to lunch now with my DDs - I'll test out 'Student Primrose' with them grin

Anniebach Sun 29-Oct-17 13:11:09

Do that Primrose, if you find yourself alone at the table do let me know. Enjoy lunch x

Anniebach Sun 29-Oct-17 13:25:30

youtu.be/GOhu9wYo-iI

nigglynellie Sun 29-Oct-17 13:36:13

For what it's worth annie, I have never referred to any of my much loved dogs as a bitch. (horrid word) Our current little spaniel is our little girl or little maid. Just thought I'd mention it!

Anniebach Sun 29-Oct-17 13:44:25

Thank you Niggly, I don't know one person who has dogs who do s, yes it is a horrid word and has always been considered socially as an insult when used when referring to a woman

trisher Sun 29-Oct-17 14:18:02

So it's OK to call a bitch a girl but not OK to call a girl a bitch. Who knew here were such pedants about language and isn't it strange what people find insulting?

Anniebach Sun 29-Oct-17 14:33:37

Not strange, just different standards, could be upbringing , could be company we spend a lot of time in, I don't know why, but I accept not everyone has the same standards.

minesaprosecco Sun 29-Oct-17 14:45:21

Bitch is the word for a female dog, and it couldn't be considered low standards to use it as such.

Anniebach Sun 29-Oct-17 15:00:05

I think we all know that, dog owners are quite aware when buying a puppy if they are buying a bitch or a dog. When the dog becomes part of the family it is not referred to as bitch, who says good bitch, or I am taking my bitch for a walk. You obviously have nothing to do with dogs,

Bitch when referring to a human is acknowledged to be an insult .

Got it now?

Jalima1108 Sun 29-Oct-17 16:58:29

It's strange, really, as most female dogs - bitches - are lovely, friendly creatures.
Whoever thought it should be used as an insult against women?

Oh Anniebach it is good to know we still have people who maintain standards.
Yes, it is good, I agree, thank goodness for such people.

minesaprosecco Sun 29-Oct-17 17:10:28

Yes, Annie, got it now, thank you so much for your explanation, I am wholly enlightened!

Anniebach Sun 29-Oct-17 17:22:20

Your most welcome minesaprosecco

Anniebach Sun 29-Oct-17 17:30:15

No Jen I will not praise Corbyn for anything he has done for the Labour Party because he has done b all, Momentum tells him what to do and what to say and no he did not do more than .kinnock, Kinnock had to take the party through the very wilderness years Corbyns cronies had put us in.

I certaintly will not try to rewrite history , the militants nearly killed off the party then and this time they are succeeding with your help

trisher Sun 29-Oct-17 18:13:53

Going back to the term 'bitch' it is a word widely used amongst farmers and country people possibly because they have working dogs and like to know what they are getting. But I wonder about "bitching" it's widely used as a term for complaining or bad mouthing someone or something presumably those who don't like the word (and honestly it is just a word) wouldn't use the term so what do they say?

Anniebach Sun 29-Oct-17 18:51:23

I have owned eight bitches and four dogs, every time I stated I want a bitch or a dog , once they come into the home they become good boy or good girl when training starts, not good dog , good bitch .

Yes I agree we can easily say of a female - what a bitchy thing to say , but this is different to the use of the word by Clive Lewis.

lemongrove Sun 29-Oct-17 19:05:43

Exactly Day6 and Momentum are a very worrying lot.
They are not angry at anything, just determined and extremist and will do and say anything to get their hooks into the LP, oust any moderates and install Corbyn as PM.
Any moderate LP member or voter should be bothered by them.
Extremists of any kind are a potential problem.

POGS Sun 29-Oct-17 19:33:34

I would think if any poster called another poster 'a bitch' 'you bitch' the post would be quite rightly deleted for being crass and using inappropriate language .

Some posters it appears cannot see the 'context' of when /where and to whom the word is used is known to be nothing short of crude , insulting terminology.

Really? Honestly?

Anniebach Sun 29-Oct-17 20:25:56

Trisher, you say bitch is just a word and you call your friends this. Do you call them a cow or a mare or a sow because they are just words ?

trisher Sun 29-Oct-17 21:06:14

So you do say bitchy but not bitch how interesting. You see if someone is being bitchy I might then say 'You bitch" probably in a joking way, but you wouldn't. Takes all sorts doesn't it. Why would I call them any of those? there's no meaning to them at all Bitch has a number of meanings.

Anniebach Sun 29-Oct-17 21:28:22

No Trisher, it has been said - a bitch is a female dog.

Just curious if you would call someone a cow or a sow, seems you would because they are just words.

trisher Sun 29-Oct-17 21:36:00

We've discussed the other meanings of bitch before Annie have you forgotten?

Primrose65 Sun 29-Oct-17 21:38:57

I think everyone knows this has been discussed before. And now. And I bet it comes up in the future too.

Anniebach Sun 29-Oct-17 21:40:31

No, there is no other meaning,a bitch is the female of several species ,not human , animal. That's it. I am sure you like me are bored with this conversation, you use the term bitch, I do not, that's it.

trisher Sun 29-Oct-17 21:43:24

Annie has spoken. All dictionaries please note and amend your entries.

Anniebach Sun 29-Oct-17 22:24:13

Just because I am bored with the conversation ? You can continue, I dare say there is someone who wants to help you

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