Corbyns Momentum

Irish protestors have always asked to be treated as political prisoners and had a good case to be so.(Incidently the suffragettes wanted the same thing and went on hunger strike because of that).
Does anyone seriously think that if everyone had adopted the same policies as the Conservatives (remember you weren't allowed to hear the voices of IRA members) the IRA would have been prepared to enter into the NI Peace Process? Please note I use capital letters for this. There is a difference between talking about the peace process as a general term and a specific one like the NI. Pity some people are unable to deb

Sorry Bloody thing jumped!
ate generally but pull out specifics and try to change the argument.

Did the suffragettes blow up or shoot innocent people, even children?

Should the two men who murdered the soldier Lee Rigsby or the man who murdered Jo Cox be classed political prisoners ?

"Over the next 17 years, these 200 VZ58s would be used in the murder or attempted murder of about 70 people in Northern Ireland. In the early 90s, they were used in three massacres: gunmen stood at the doors of a bookmaker’s shop and two bars, and simply sprayed the room. Nineteen people died and 27 were wounded."

DUP did that, led by Nigel Dodds and Sammy Wilson, who are both MPs now. It wasn't all one-sided.
They are now propping up May's government.

I don't think anyone is complaining that the peace in NI has resulted in certain people becoming MPs.
This is a thread about Corbyn and Momentum.
Did Corbyn engage with Dodds and Wilson too then? Or just the IRA?

if no one is complaining about the terrorists on the DUP side then why is there a problem with Corbyn who DIDN'T actually shoot anyone .Its that mindset that only the catholics were terrorists in NI ,and thats what caused a lot of the problems in the first place.The so called "troubles" Annie were originally about CIVIL RIGHTS ,I know some find it hard to believe or to understand how badly catholics were treated in NI until very recent times the Westminster governments apparently hasn't learned anything since the Good Friday Agreement.The simple solution would be to hand the six counties back and leave ALL of Ireland IN the EU ,where the majority want to be

Jeremy Corbyn should have given GQ the full Mariah Carey

This women appears to have heard exactly what I heard this morning.

Instead, Jones winced, the Labour leader’s office “didn’t really understand the process” – as though “the process” of how a magazine cover happens should interest anyone outside the trade to the extent that they’d lavish more than 12 seconds on trying to “understand” it.

and later, relating to the few requests Corbyn had, which included he would wear a M & S suit:

If anything, Corbyn didn’t go far enough. I’d have had the full Mariah Carey-style dressing room rider – 286 white votive candles spelling out FOR THE MANY NOT THE FEW, a basket of kittens to pet, and a vegetable medley with all the green ones picked out. Also: I don’t do stairs.

^Corbyn being himself? Who is he?
I haven't worked that out either but I'm working on it

Paddyann , I am quite aware of causes which brought about the troubles, I am speaking of a man who keeps on and on about peace yet had no problem with supporting only one side .

Hand the six counties back to whom?

He was arrested in 1986 for taking part in a protest by IRA sympathisers to show solidarity with the accused terrorists who were found guilty of the Brighton bombing
I didn't know that Anniebach - that's because he was such a nonentity, although I do remember the invite to tea to the IRA in the H of C.
How terribly English! Tea and scones!
Oh no, just a cuppa - in a mug

And invited them just weeks after the Brighton bombing, there were people in Westminster grieving and this peace loving, sensitive caring man did that. Anyone would have to be completely incapable of any compassion to do such a thing and the same goes for anyone who supports it .

This alone shows the man to be cruel, brutal really

Just not very bright

Jalima, I didn't know when I voted for what I thought was a man who cared for others. So much I didn't know about the man, he disgusts me.

He did get two A Levels !

Two? I thought it was one.

Sorry, just checked, two E's.
His mum was very clever though.

Hand back the six counties?! were it that simple!!!! I think the Protestant population just might be a tad unhappy with that arrangement! The Orange men would be out en masse, and the South isn't that keen on the unification of the Island of Ireland. Without a referendum it can't happen, and that doesn't look like happening in the foreseeable future.

Oh the fake news.

Corbyn was arrested in 1986 after refusing police requests to move from outside the court, Corbyn and the other protesters were arrested for obstruction and held for five hours before being released on bail, but were not charged.

So ... arrested for obstruction but not charged. Not quite the same story is it.

Anniebach said:
He was arrested in 1986 for taking part in a protest by IRA sympathisers to show solidarity with the accused terrorists who were found guilty of the Brighton bombing , one was Patrick McGee who was convicted of murdering five people and for planning a bombing campaign in London and seaside resorts.

Gracesgran said:
Corbyn was arrested in 1986 after refusing police requests to move from outside the court, Corbyn and the other protesters were arrested for obstruction and held for five hours before being released on bail, but were not charged

So ... arrested for obstruction but not charged. Not quite the same story is it.

As far as I can tell, from reading both the above, yes, it is the same.

He was arrested is the crux of both statements.

Correct Jalima, except I said why he was there , I did not say he had been charged, some get over excited thinking they have found out I have posted a lie, bless them,

So, man(37) arrested on demonstration for obstruction but later released - of course that is not a story, or rather it isn't one that interests me. You two enjoy.

Oh! I didn't realise that your post contained fake news, sorry Gracesgran

Well, if true, of course it is a 'story' if it is an MP who is arrested.

Butif it was 'fake news' then perhaps that should be made clear now, 31 years later.

So, man(37) arrested on demonstration for obstruction but later released - of course that is not a story, or rather it isn't one that interests me.

To suggest the IRA was instrumental in the peace process misses out entirely the fact that Gerry Adams said he realised they couldn't bomb their way to a united Ireland. (I'm misquoting here but that was the implication)
John Hulme, Adams, Mo Mowlem ,Blair and members of the DUP contributed to the progress.
I haven't read anyone here suggesting that the Loyalist Paramilitaries were not involved in criminal activity and murder, alongside the Republican Paramilitaries
Sorry for perpetuating this discussion on a thread that is entitled Corbyn's Momentum.