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The Irish question

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varian Sun 26-Nov-17 15:09:43

Some of us would like more than anything to remain in the EU, along with our Irish friends, but if we have to leave then at least we hope to remain in the single market and customs union.

If the extreme brexiteers have their way this will not happen. The Republic of Ireland will keep free movement of people, goods and services with the rest of the EU. We will not keep any of these freedoms, so what will happen at the Irish border?

whitewave Sun 10-Dec-17 12:36:11

The Falklands will come under particular threat once and if we decide to go WTO

Jalima1108 Sun 10-Dec-17 11:37:30

I kept asking that jura2 - and the Falklands etc but no-one listened, no-one answered.

jura2 Sun 10-Dec-17 11:27:49

and the Malvinas?

whitewave Sun 10-Dec-17 08:34:49

Apparently Gibraltar has been cast adrift!

jura2 Sun 10-Dec-17 08:28:45

Talking about Churchill- he had no qualm with crossing the floor to the Liberals when he felt the Cons were inadequate- if only those who strongly believe we are on the wrong road, be they from Labour or the Cons - would do the same again.

jura2 Sun 10-Dec-17 08:17:11

Now what will happen to Gibraltar- no-one is talking about this one.

whitewave Sat 09-Dec-17 10:14:11

Why on earth would I wish for a coup by the loons? It is bad enough what this poor country is suffering at the moment, especially if you are one of the millions of childr3n described in the House of Commons last week. How can the Tories live with themselves?

lemongrove Sat 09-Dec-17 10:09:35

There won’t be a coup ww .....such wishful thinking on your part.
Just be happy that there will be a deal with the EU and no
Walking away.Brexit seems to be more of a reality now, and there will be no Armageddon as many Remainers thought.

whitewave Sat 09-Dec-17 07:44:48

I think you are right suzied

“Peace until after Christmas” grin

Mind you if she is still around then - the loons are beyond fury. Just look at the Leave Facebook page. So perhaps they will stage a coup. Gove seems to be lining up.

suzied Sat 09-Dec-17 07:15:00

I think May takes the Neville Chamberlain role - being congratulated for solving the “problem”.

whitewave Sat 09-Dec-17 07:01:48

Were you smoking a cigar when you posted?

whitewave Sat 09-Dec-17 07:01:01

That’s very Churchilian tegan grin

Tegan2 Fri 08-Dec-17 23:16:04

This isn't the beginning of the end but the end of the beginning.

durhamjen Fri 08-Dec-17 21:49:14

Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed, so nobody knows, not even lemon.

suzied Fri 08-Dec-17 21:38:28

So please tell me, as I am so dense, what is it about the the Irish border proposals that we should be so delighted about? Is it just that it is staying the same as it is now?

suzied Fri 08-Dec-17 21:23:52

Not moaning - Just questioning the motivations. NI stays in the single market just with a slight different wording as a sop to the nationalists. Open borders, what’s not to like. But hey, we’ve already got those? So the proposals are...everything stays the same! hooray! Crack open the champagne. Oops no - English sparking cider! We’ll change the descriptions slightly so Brexiters are happy, but don’t change any thing so much to make remainders happy and let’s spend £ billions to get there. Sorry if I’m not wetting myself with glee unlike the May supporters.

lemongrove Fri 08-Dec-17 21:09:18

Oh, the sour grapes on here could be bottled and sold ( at a discount)
Everybody was worried ( so they said) on here, about Ireland, could all this endanger the Good Friday Agreement etc, what would happen, it would all be terrible!
Now that everybody on both sides of the border is happy about what has been proposed, all that some posters can do is moan moan moan.
I really think that a few wanted it all to go horribly wrong,
Wanted T May to bow out and an election called for.
Which they fondly hoped Corbyn would then win, and maybe he would cancel Brexit.Well, that ain’t happening.

durhamjen Fri 08-Dec-17 21:01:16

Neither problem has been solved, just shelved for the time being.

suzied Fri 08-Dec-17 20:59:56

Though the border question isn’t solved for all time is it?

durhamjen Fri 08-Dec-17 20:59:45

Can't remember where I read the article about all this fuss over a border that we won't have when we leave the EU.

suzied Fri 08-Dec-17 20:57:42

I think lemongrove said “ the Irish problem is solved”, not “the Irish border question is solved” so that’s me - dense.

Jalima1108 Fri 08-Dec-17 20:54:26

Rarely suntanned!

Guilty - possibly hmm
I'm the token white British old woman (in every airport, apparently - 'here she comes, let's nab her).

durhamjen Fri 08-Dec-17 20:53:52

I thought it was supposed to be remainers who used insults, lemon.
I think we all know what you mean by dense, and you complain about it regularly.

lemongrove Fri 08-Dec-17 20:51:27

You must look guilty of something Jalima (or suntanned)

Jalima1108 Fri 08-Dec-17 20:48:44

ps I don't have dreadlocks, piercings, tattoos or a white van either!!