Trump plumbs new depths

I do not think this tweet story is "media hype" radicalnan - it is there for all to see. Or do you think a media outlet has planted this and it is not from DT.

Just because other countries (and indeed our own) have perpetrated things to be ashamed of does not mean that this appalling human being (?) should be left to proceed without protest.

I feel quite sick reading this.

Did you hear what his spokesperson said re at least one of the videos being false - something like it doesn’t matter whether the video was real or not, the threat is real.

Vile!!! Can not abide this nasty vile racist excuse of a man! How Trump (,right name) became president beggars belief! The more people who shout out against this vile behaviour the better!

But lemon we have to hear what he tweets/says because we have to judge and decide what sort of relationship we want or rather don’t want with him. Well no visit here at least now or probably ever. I just heard the full statement from No 10- very clear indeed ‘he was wrong’

I don't think it was Mr Trump himself who more or less massacred the Native American/Indian race and stole their land but it was actually quite a few of our British ancestors who had a hand in that. No awards will rectify that. I save my anger for them.

Well I’m quite capable of feeling ire for both - it’s not an either/ or.

Especially as the story we were all told about Pocahontas is now thought to be a myth. Sounds like Trump refers to Elizabeth Warren as if she is the Disney version.

He's a Mickey Mouse President!

politicalhaze.com/2017/06/mickey-mouse-hangs-head-shame-trump-defiles-hall-presidents/

I really do not see the point of bringing up unacceptable actions in the past that we all feel uncomfortable about and feel angry about.

That does not make DT any less of a pillock in the here and now.

We cannot refuse him a state visit because in the near future we will need US markets even more than now.

Oh dear pillock sounds a bit endearing really.

pillock a stupid person

it is a bit of an understatement

We are inviting the POTUS not the person who is holding that office at any given moment in time.

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Luckygirl I agree going back in history isn't always helpful. What bothers me is when a person in a responsible position is either ignorant about the history (Trump) or insensitive/inappropriate (Boris). Both of these men have numerous people on hand advising them and it's inevitably their own contributions that get them into trouble.

Problem is Jal he tweets as POTUS. I honestly think a SV is vanishingly unlikey and a ‘working’ visit is in the long grass. The government has enough to do

lilyflower It is not "virtue signalling" to strongly express opposition to a man who is, whether you like the description or not, a bigot and a racist.

In my view, it's important that people do show their disgust regarding this man's words and behaviour, and to try and implying that such opposition is insincere and all for show is, I think, insulting.

Along with "virtue signalling" , the term "liberal elite" has been specially coined to try and discredit certain views. What exactly does it mean, though? Are all the Gransnetters on here and the many people throughout the world who deplore Trump's behaviour part of this group?

It would cost too much anyway.

sudden thought - royal wedding invitation?
He has said nothing yet, has he? So that is him off the list.

Perhaps he was just giving a subtle hint that he didn't want an invitation?
After all, he is racist. He can't say everything he does against Obama and then accept an invitation to her wedding.

Jalima it's supposed to be a small wedding, so I doubt if heads of states will be invited. If she wasn't divorced the wedding would be a different kettle of fish.

We can but hope. Imagine the protests when he does come over.

I doubt it'll be that small, Wilma. I think I read that Windsor holds 1000 people. Mind you, that could be Trump and his security, couldn't it?

"We cannot refuse him a state visit because in the near future we will need US markets even more than now."

Nope - that's anti-EU scaremongering.
Should we be having more trade talks with the USA in the future we will be working with businessmen and the nations top negotiators, not Trump directly. No decent businessman is going to turn down a profitable deal.

All the world, including the UK, will stay on the right side of the awful Trump because the USA is a mighty global player in virtually every field. The tact and diplomacy missing in the POTUS tends to be well garnered in most statesmen and women.

Macron cosied up to Trump not long ago, don't forget. If they are best buddies, other politicians will have to suck it up too because I don't see too many foreign governments likely to condemn him outright. In fairness, Theresa May did condemn his re-tweeting of the BF video earlier and spoke out against extremist hate speech.

The man is vile beyond belief but no one can say his presidency is boring. What's next?

NotTooOld you're right about it not being that small! I just read St George's Chapel holds 800! Trump's security will have to stay outside. I suppose holding it in Windsor Castle is less pomp and ceremony than the other options. 800 is a big wedding as far as I'm concerned. Still don't want him there. Wouldn't mind seeing what Melania would wear though. It will be interesting to see what the American female guests wear because they usually wear evening style gowns at weddings.

If we do business with Saudi Arabia, I have no doubt we'll do business with the US.

Obama was not invited to Wills wedding so I can’t imagine that DT would be invited to this one especially as SG has a capacity of less than half WA.