Has the Conservative Party lost all sense of competence

Fraud exists now of course. Corruption of course can be prosecuted.

We shall wait and see.

But I think it is probably down to this government’s incompetence, which whilst not a crime has tragic implication for many small firms and individuals let alone the tax payer.

If the Carillion scandal was caused by back handers from Carillion boss to the Conservative Party is this not corruption? And the permitting of large sums of money being given by private individuals or corporations to a political party---should that be a crime? Is it a crime and if not why not?

This country needs a written constitution.

alexa if a crime has been committed then hopefully it will come in in an enquiry. Rest assured however that those involved will be busy covering their backs and trying to get rid of all evidence.

Having read many of these opinions it is refreshing to see such insight and outspoken enlightenment which is normally suppressed by the popular media (more specifically media barons) of the far right press.

I also would like to think that politicians do read and take note of the opinions expressed in gransnet,

millie yes! They are definately having a run for their money with social media where folk are able to read news with a different spin to that put out by the far right wing press with not so hidden agendas.

It is like a breath of fresh air!

If the Carillion scandal was caused by back handers from Carillion boss to the Conservative Party is this not corruption?

It's not exactly 'backhanders' because donations to political parties are entirely legitimate; it's the only way they have, apart from membership fees, of raising money to finance their operations. But it does look very like corruption when companies and individuals are paying very large amounts of money (£25,000 in some cases) to belong to 'donor clubs' which guarantee them direct access to members of the government. And it is equally so if large donations to other parties, such as union donations to Labour, give them preferential access.

As I said earlier in this thread, I think that state funded parties might well be the way to go, with no additional donations, apart from realistic (i.e not highly inflated) membership fees, allowed. It would create a more level playing field and promote a more democratic access to 'power'.

Given that Boris Johnson wants to build a bridge to Europe (which I thought was fake news but doesn't appear to be so) and given that, as a Labour voter I've been quite open about my reservations about their leadership, would any Conservative voter on here be honest and say some of the people running this country totally useless?

Johnson’s bridge and headlines in a dumbed down Torygraph is merely a distraction from Macon’s advise that the uks financial services cannot be addressed unless part of the singl3market.

It will never happen, just like the fools idea of a Thames estuary airport. Ignore the clown.

French TV2 last night interviewed May who refused to say that she would vote for Brexit in another referendum.

How much tax payers money was wasted on the other bridge dreamt up by the idiot? At leas5 £37million at last count.

Another gem from potty mouth when looking at water cannon use.

“Splat The chavs”

Tweeted by Dan Hodges

“Can we have more money for the NHS? No sorry.
Can we have extra money for out armed forces? No.
Schools? Nope.
Police? Nope
A massive bridge across the channel? Of course! A great idea.

The Tories want to lose the next election”

newsthump.com/2018/01/19/boris-johnson-proposes-bridge-from-britain-to-france-so-he-can-campaign-to-close-it-again/

Or...

newsthump.com/2018/01/19/boris-johnson-suggests-conveyor-belt-and-zip-line-between-uk-and-france/

Some people are very clever Jen. The newsthump articles made me chuckle. Just enough of the truth to make you laugh - although the prospect of Boris in any capacity doesn't usually have that effect!

This is the one that I thought was a bit over the top, GracesGran.

newsthump.com/2018/01/19/wile-e-coyote-proposes-giant-catapult-across-the-channel/

infacts.org/4-brilliant-brexit-brainwaves-boris/

Some more ideas for Boris.

Considering that Boris and his mates have just burnt 27 other bridges ....
Do you think his next Big Boris Brainwave will be a tunnel under the Atlantic?

www.gizmodo.co.uk/2016/06/9-new-massive-bridges-and-tunnels-that-could-unite-countries-and-continents/
However, not through the busiest shipping lane in the world

It seems a strange idea for a staunch Brexiteer is all I can say.

Good heavens, Jalima, it has been considered!

Can you imagine what people would say about a bridge between Morocco and Gibraltar, and then another one from Gibraltar to Spain?
At least they will stop lots of those drownings in the Mediterranean.

Perhaps he's changed his mind, after all, it was a tough decision, apparently.
(about the EU)

can I ask all you who live south of the border,what are the REAL chances of Boris taking over from May should she resign or get sacked ? Frankly it scares the bejesus out of me as my ould Irish granny would have said .There would be matching mop topped seriously mentally deranged walking mouths on both sides of the Atlantic and I dont know if the world could survive them.

Who knows really Paddyann. I agree entirely.

Plots to remove Theresa May are building within the parliamentary Tory party This is an interesting article telling us more about the machinations within the Conservative Party. I find it even more interesting that a current affairs weekly publication can feel so out of date this week because May and the Tories are just so incompetent that this has been overwhelmed by the current chaos they have managed to cause with Carillion.