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Could someone explain the EEA please?

(36 Posts)
GracesGranMK2 Sat 02-Dec-17 13:39:36

I would really like the fact about how this fits with the EU. Thanks

petra Sat 02-Dec-17 21:49:39

It's very simple. But then it is for me as I read an awful lot about the eu and trading agreements. I assumed that most of the contributors to the Brexit threads understood these agreements, but it seems I was wrong.

MaizieD Sat 02-Dec-17 21:59:15

Fabulous explanation, petra. We've all learned loads from it, I'm sure hmm

GracesGranMK2 Sat 02-Dec-17 22:12:15

Petra, I am aware that there are people on here that know many things in greater depth than I do, even though I read round the things that interest me. Thankfully they are usually kind enough to share that knowledge and I have been very grateful that they have.

Primrose65 Sat 02-Dec-17 22:31:43

I'd offer to help, but I don't think I'd pitch things at the right level for you gg. Professor of Economics is quite enough for one evening - don't want to be Professor of Brexit too.

GracesGranMK2 Sat 02-Dec-17 22:44:08

Professor of Economics?

ElaineI Sat 02-Dec-17 23:21:26

Eh? No idea what is going on here. Sounds like sarcasm. Never heard of EEA but googled and this is what it seems to be EU countries and Norway, Iceland and Lichtenstein in single market: www.efta.int/eea

MaizieD Sat 02-Dec-17 23:31:05

It's the European Economic Area (EEA) and it is, I believe, slightly different from the European Free Trade Area (EFTA)

GG would be far better googling it grin

Jalima1108 Sat 02-Dec-17 23:42:46

A link which may be of help
www.ft.com/content/16b50be8-161c-38d3-83b8-14b04faa9580

but it is too late for me to read and precis

MaizieD Sat 02-Dec-17 23:44:21

Paywalled, Jalima

If you have the title of the article it might be possible to access it through google

GracesGranMK2 Sat 02-Dec-17 23:59:55

I thought I had put another post on but it seems to have disappeared. I put in the OP I would really like the fact about how this fits with the EU because I would really like to know how it works for the countries that are in it rather than just how it works. It is probably time for me to read more of my copy of Viking Economics; there may be some information there.

MaizieD Sun 03-Dec-17 01:27:48

Here you are, GG2

EFTA is very different from EEA blush

www.politico.eu/article/eea-efta-schengen-eurozone-eu-what-is-the-eea-and-efta/

GracesGranMK2 Sun 03-Dec-17 09:53:18

Great article Maizie, thanks.

whitewave Sun 03-Dec-17 10:07:10

I’ve only just noticed the gg

Personally I think that we are very likely to end up within this economic community. I’m not sure that A50 revokes that particular membership, which needs to be done under a separate article as far as I am aware.

The Irish question would be very easily solved then.

GracesGranMK2 Sun 03-Dec-17 10:23:29

I did wonder and it certainly doesn't seem all bad to do so whitewave but I need to read into it. Interesting if we haven't actually applied to leave it; I certainly hadn't realised that.

You suddenly find there are whole areas you just don't know enough aboutsmile

Jalima1108 Sun 03-Dec-17 11:43:20

MaizieD
I started to read it last night, was too tired, now I have tried my link and it is paywalled.

Will it work this way?
www.ft.com/content/16b50be8-161c-38d3-83b8-14b04faa9580

Jalima1108 Sun 03-Dec-17 11:43:54

No

It does work through google though if anyone is interested.

POGS Sun 03-Dec-17 11:47:55

GG

I am actually shocked to think you have contributed so often to Brexit threads and have asked this question as the EEA has been mentioned on numerous occasions.

Might I suggest you look at past threads starting with the
' BREXIT? Am I just plain stupid? ' thread as you were frequently posting whilst posts were flying back and forth discussing the EEA as one of the tropics so it might refresh something in your mind.

Does this also help:-

Countries in the EU and EEA

The European Union (EU) is an economic and political union of 28 countries. It operates an internal (or single) market which allows free movement of goods, capital, services and people between member states.
EU countries

The EU countries are:

Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Republic of Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden and the UK.

The European Economic Area (EEA)

The EEA includes EU countries and also Iceland, Liechtenstein and Norway. It allows them to be part of the EU’s single market.

Switzerland is neither an EU nor EEA member but is part of the single market - this means Swiss nationals have the same rights to live and work in the UK as other EEA nationals.
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The key words are obviously 'Single Market' !

Access to the Single Market requires all countries in the EU/ EFTA /EEA to abide by the 4 Freedoms/Pillars:-

' The free movement of goods, services, capital and persons within the EU are the famous “four freedoms” set out in the Treaty of Rome.

The same principles are now extended under the "internal market” rules introduced by the Single European Act.
The four freedoms are strengthened in the Lisbon Treaty, also by a special Protocol 27.'

whitewave Sun 03-Dec-17 11:49:23

pogs you are bit late -we’ve all worked that out for ourselves thank you and glory be without a snide remark between us.

POGS Sun 03-Dec-17 12:01:40

whitewave

Irony!

whitewave Sun 03-Dec-17 12:07:51

No you mistake it - it was sarcasm

petra Sun 03-Dec-17 12:31:05

Elaine1
Yes it was sarcasm on my part for the simple reason that for the past 15 months people on here who voted to leave have been told continuously that we don't understand the eu and all it entails.
Now we have one of the most prolific posters asking how the EEA fits with the eu!
We had a poster some time back who likes to impart her knowledge of the eu, but then admitted that she doesn't understand trade! It's the basis of everything the eu was built on!
It's like a maths teacher admitting they don't understand numbers.

GracesGranMK2 Sun 03-Dec-17 12:34:37

Not really POGS. Most of that I am already aware of. What I was really trying to get a handle on was how it works for the countries involved. We have such a diverse membership that I often read things from an angle I have no insight into. I really appreciate those posts.

POGS Sun 03-Dec-17 12:39:12

whitewave

At least I am used to you ' telling' me to not bother posting on threads as you like to 'chat amongst yourselves' as you once put it.

I'm very happy you and presumably GG have ' worked that out for ourselves ' as I have never had a reply to the following question perhaps you could give one :-

My question is how can we be a member of the EEA /EU/EFTA if the criteria is ALL members must abide by the 4 Freedoms/ the Four Pillars as both Labour and Conservative parties have stated the Free Movement of People will end.

This falls in line with the question of Switzerland and it's referendum on reducing immigration . They were told nein, non you will abide by the 4 Freedoms/Pillars and they are not an EU Member.

www.swissinfo.ch/eng/directdemocracy/explainer_swiss-immigration-quotas-where-do-we-stand/42715214

' Never before has Switzerland’s system of direct democracy presented such a dilemma. Since 2014, politicians have tried to reconcile the seemingly irreconcilable: how to limit the number of EU workers entering Switzerland without breaching the free movement of people accord with the 28-country bloc. Officials in Brussels have said the agreement cannot be renegotiated.'

durhamjen Sun 03-Dec-17 12:52:10

It has always been said that we could join EFTA or the EEA when we leave the EU.
We don't need to join the EEA as we are members.
I haven't noticed all the Brexiteers saying we will still be in the EEA over these last 15 months, have you?
Brexit doesn't take us out of it unless May wants to take us out of it.
Why would she want to do that?