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Max Clifford

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Anniebach Sun 10-Dec-17 12:27:50

Max has died in prison, heart attack

RIP

Iam64 Mon 11-Dec-17 08:24:40

He was a sexual predator, a self confessed liar and according to all the news reports, showed no remorse when convicted of a series of sexual offences.
Nightowl, thanks for printing the information about one of his offences. It's something I read once he'd been convicted, it's stayed with me.
As for accusations that young girls and women get into bed with older men to further their careers, I just don't share that view. It's impossible for me to consider this kind of predatory behaviour without reflecting on personal/professional experience, or on the feminist perspective.

BlueBelle Mon 11-Dec-17 07:57:10

Friday I think you are misreading my post I m in no way defending Clifford at all and as I said my remark was NOT about Max Clifford and his crimes but about cases in general
Yes Suzie many of his stories were completely fabricated and could lead to awful recriminations I believe the ‘I ate a hamster’ was him making it all up a pretty nasty piece of work in general I Just felt sorry for his daughter losing him in prison like that, not for him, but then families become victims too in all this in the quest for power

suzied Mon 11-Dec-17 07:32:16

He boasted about his “conquests “, coercing young girls to threesomes in the office etc in his memoirs, some of which was used against him in court. He also boasted about all the lies he peddled in the press, ruining people’s lives, but that’s another issue.

Friday Mon 11-Dec-17 07:03:54

Bluebelle I think the police and the CPS take into account how many of the victims, who have never met each other, are saying the same things. The same promises, the same techniques, the same kind of assaults.

When you have many allegations that all have the same or similar MO then alarms bells do ring.

nightowl Mon 11-Dec-17 06:54:11

He would take her for long drives in his yellow Jaguar and wooed her parents with promises to make their daughter the UK version of Jodie Foster, while secretly molesting her and forcing her to perform sex acts on him. In a victim impact statement read to the court, the woman – who was in court to see Clifford jailed – said he left her relying on counselling and ruined her relationship with her husband and her parents, whom she felt she had deceived by not telling them of the abuse.

This was a 15 year old he abused systematically and over a long period - only one of his young victims. How can this girl be held to blame in any way for his behaviour?

Clifford was told that had some of offences been tried under today's law, they would be considered as rape or assault by penetration with a maximum sentence of life imprisonment.

BlueBelle Mon 11-Dec-17 06:45:00

The news must have got it wrong they said his youngest victim was 15, I m the biggest hater of paedophiles but I also have a little bit of me that is frightened for wrongful convictions which can ruin someone’s life for ever, this is a general comment not a comment about Max Clifford

Friday Mon 11-Dec-17 06:42:50

FFS Anniebach it’s those kind of thoughts that allowed him and people like him to get away with it.

Anniebach Mon 11-Dec-17 06:39:16

Short sentence for a convicted paedophile and no one can be said to be guilty because a judge says - I'm pretty sure you committed that offence. Clifford made a lot of enemies in high places ,

maryeliza54 Sun 10-Dec-17 23:04:37

He was actually a convicted paedeophile but there you go, I expect they all asked for it

maryeliza54 Sun 10-Dec-17 23:02:42

The judge at his trial said he was sure that he had committed the offence against the 12 year old- that’s pretty strong stuff. I’m somewhat surprised that you weighed in so vehemently against his victims ab without knowing what ages they were.

Anniebach Sun 10-Dec-17 22:55:29

No, I didn't. The 12 year old cannot be included , no trial, this is British law .

maryeliza54 Sun 10-Dec-17 22:44:52

You do know don’t you ab that at least one of his victims was only 14 and that there was a 12 year old as well but that occurred in Spain so could not be tried here for that.

Anniebach Sun 10-Dec-17 22:03:06

Rubbish minesa, just posting my opinion on girls so eager to get into bed with a man to further her career

minesaprosecco Sun 10-Dec-17 21:54:57

Being an apologist again for another predatory man, ab?

Anniebach Sun 10-Dec-17 21:42:24

It's what publicists do.

This sexual predator again, girls sleep with men in the hope of getting work in tv or modelling , no different to prostitution , all these naive, innocent girls with all these wicked men taking advantage of them, pity the parents of these girls didn't teach self respect . Still Sam Fox's father was her agent was he not?

grumppa Sun 10-Dec-17 21:37:47

Just as some (many!) people brought banking into disrepute, Max Clifford brought his profession, PR, into disrepute. Amoral, immoral and unscrupulous.

Friday Sun 10-Dec-17 21:35:38

He deliberately published lies of the ‘Freddy Star ate my hamster’ type and was a sexual predator.

Deedaa Sun 10-Dec-17 21:00:08

I always had a sneaking liking for him. Guilty or not there's something very sad about the thought of just collapsing in a prison cell. And he was only 3 years older than me, which doesn't seem old at all.

Anniebach Sun 10-Dec-17 19:17:58

Isn't that what people in business do? make money where they can ?

BlueBelle Sun 10-Dec-17 18:51:41

Oh gosh I never saw him as amusing I just thought he was a man out to make money out of anyone and such an arrogant character however I did wonder how safe the evidence against him was he was always adamant he was innocent but then he would even if he was guilty

Anniebach Sun 10-Dec-17 18:46:46

I found him amusing, he certaintly deflated some rather inflated ego's

kittylester Sun 10-Dec-17 18:31:47

I didn't like him but he was a bit of a character and he doted on his daughter who has really bad rheumatoid arthritis - I believe!

Anniebach Sun 10-Dec-17 18:25:05

he did what publicists do and did,

whitewave Sun 10-Dec-17 17:18:57

He sounded absolutely ghastly.

eazybee Sun 10-Dec-17 13:15:46

Agree; apparently he was due for another hearing in the near future.