Max Clifford

Bah Humbug!

Couldn't give a fig for majority views except I respect the fact that everyone still has the freedom to express their views, be they in the majority or minority , pity some cannot do the same

Happily these sort of outdated opinions are not the majority view on here.

Before he was accused of anything, when I saw him on TV he always looked a bit 'creepy'. Yes I know, you can't judge a book by its cover but there was something about him. Just my opinion of course.

And if they lie what reputation are their saving ?

Save their own reputations? Like they did when one killed Ian Tomlinson and they said he had fallen, if that American had filmed the assault Mr Tomlinson would not have had any justice, was he of the Clifford type?

The police might well close ranks to save their own reputation. They're not going to close ranks to save Max Clifford's.

No humpty it's not what I think, I accept a juries verdict, I accept the sentence a judge hands down, I do not agree with a judge giving his verdict on a matter which has not been tried in a court, the police ? There are good officers but I have campaigned for so many years against miscarriages of justice that I am not able to accept the - all our police are wonderful claim, when they close ranks to cover up their deceit and many have done so .

Why ask that question ab - you should look it up rather than post innuendos

nightowl Me too

I really believed the attitudes to young girls and women being expressed on here had long been rejected amongst women of our generation. It saddens and shocks me that my contemporaries could still blame children and vulnerable women for their own abuse.

Annie if we all took your view there would be no justice in this country, if you can't trust police or judges or juries. Is that what you think?

The abused must be upset by his death, they are claiming damages from him.

Bringing the youngsters from Rochdale into this is pointless, were those who claim they were abused by Clifford in care, on drugs ?

So those girls in Rochdale who returned to their abusers were just asking for it? The fact that they been coerced, manipulated, plied with drink and drugs, money, were often under age and vulnerable makes it all their fault? I can't believe people stick up for a self confessed liar who boasted in his memoirs about how he used his fame/money to persuade young girls to have sex with him and blame the girls.

Just like Trump, his foul mouth ensured his guilt, as he boasted about what he had done to the girls.

He may have laughed out loud because the allegations were so preposterous. I don't know.
I think I remember that one teenage accuser said he had abused her during a car journey, and had continued to do so on the subsequent fifteen times she had voluntarily accompanied him. That made me suspicious, but as I said previously, I don't know if I remember it correctly.

Yes he is dead, and he had been granted leave to appeal .

He has died now, I think he was guilty as sin.

Does it Iam, like the Birmingham Six, Guildford Four , Cardiff Three and all the others ?

When a jury has made its decision and the judge passes sentence it is normal for him or her to make observations on the case. I think one of the observations this judge made was that the sentence was a longer one because a Max Clifford, had actually laughed out loud when his accusers were giving evidence.

A long trial in which the defendant is properly legally represented gives me confidence that the guilty verdict was correct. The Police who lied about Hillsborough are being brought to trial at last. If they're found guilty Annie, will you struggle to accept that verdict.

Iam, showed no remorse has been said about other too, suppose a person is innocent, should they show remorse when they want to appeal?

Ah yes the police, well it must all be true, just as the police all said the same thing about the Hillsborough victims. The allegations made by the police then certaintly said the same thing , I don't place a lot of faith in the police, and certaintly not a judge who declares his opinion on allegations in an open court.

My reply was about cases in general BlueBelle