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Scotland -leased to the Scots

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paddyann Mon 11-Dec-17 11:43:54

this is not MY piece of writing ,please give opinions.

By The Grouse Beater - Scotland

Imposing an unequal Treaty on a neighbour nation in which that nation will always be overpowered by the parliamentary votes and self-serving agenda of the dominant nation is normally described as governing a colony.

In Scotland’s case, Scotland is leased to the Scots.

The majority of key powers are retained by the UK Parliament which in the main serves England first, colonies second, usually serving them badly. All Scotland’s wealth goes south, a tiny portion sent back in case we starve, in which case we’d be no use to our colonial masters at all. The tragic political dog’s dinner that is Northern Ireland is a case in point, Gibraltar another. Scotland gets short shrift but a bit more attention because it’s joined onto England and shouts a lot. Wales is too close to London to be a threat.

Foreign policy, armaments, avoiding wars, banking, trade deals and treaties, tariffs, broadcasting and cable provision, membership of the United Nations are only a few of the important powers not given to Scotland. By any yardstick that makes us a colony.

The only concessions England made under the Act of Union – and how it must regret it – was taking on all the United Kingdom’s debt in the event of a split. That was the boulder chained to its ankle in return for controlling all financial powers. To compensate they take all Scotland earns and steal Scotland’s oil.

Colonies are not for consulting

nigglynellie Tue 12-Dec-17 17:48:28

Just pointing out that England, contrary to some people's beliefs, did not annex Scotland. After the Darien Affair Scotland went cap in hand to England for financial aid as they were virtually bankrupt; that's how the Act of Union came into being.

Granny23 Tue 12-Dec-17 18:14:16

Try this link for a brief look at both sides of the Darien Story:

www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofScotland/The-Darien-Scheme/

Jalima1108 Tue 12-Dec-17 18:30:04

Of course Scotland doesn't belong to England - we are all part of the UK.
But, as Baggs says, it will remain British for ever.

I do hope my Scottish friends haven't read this - we're going out with one lot for lunch this week and seeing another lot very soon.
Of course, being Scots from generations back but now living in England or Wales, they must be defectors or even traitors.
Oh dear.

Jalima1108 Tue 12-Dec-17 18:32:44

There are those who are more are more than ready to light the blue touch paper.
Cherrytree, as a friend of ours used to say 'Light blue touch paper and retire' - he would give a stir with the proverbial wooden spoon then sit back and enjoy listening to everyone else arguing grin

FarNorth Sun 17-Dec-17 10:11:50

MaizieD Tue 12-Dec-17 13:55:44
The Darien Afffair! shock. Three hundred years ago?

Some folks bear very ancient grudges it seems.

Baggs Tue 12-Dec-17 15:29:32
Exactly, maiz.

Baggs, you were the first to mention the Darien Scheme in this thread, so which folks bearing ancient grudges do you mean?