Corbyns Inertia

Kettle-Pot-Black!!!
* Annie* uses and abuses a woman worker in her desperate quest to condemn Corbyn and you just let it go, but then tell me I'm making personal remarks. No I'm stating the facts and putting the record straight. Perhaps you should tell Annie not to introduce irrelevancies lemon

GNHQ say that they have reminded a number of posters on here about this whitewave, so........

trisher we are trying to stay on the subject and not making personal remarks about other posters or slinging insults around as it doesn’t further the debate.

So a woman who works to look after not just the homeless but the homeless with dependency problems is being condemned because she made 2 posts about 2 things that she experienced over the Christmas holiday. One a surprise vist by a politician and one the death of a man using the place where she worked and Annie castigates her for it. If it wasn't so bloody awful it would be funny. As it is this level of bitterness is just pathetic.
She doesn't connect the two things only Annie does that.
She was just writing about what happened when she was at work.

Not actually my mockery of the Labour Manifesto, but a Labour MP ( I can find which one if necessary.)
The person i.e.Leader does matter very much in this case
( usually not too much I agree) but with somebody that the LP always regarded as a loose cannon, and given his past history, many voters cannot take him seriously as a future PM. Quite rightly, in my opinion.
Have never thought it mattered as much in the past ( Labour PM’s) but they have all been reasonable and capable politicians ( not having their strings pulled by groups such as Momentum.)

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/no-one-should-take-last-11783810

No mention in your link of Corbyn, Annie. Only one post by her.

I don't agree Lemon but it is really only a case of either of us licking our finger and sticking it up to see where the wind - or in this case trend - is coming from. We cannot know as was proved by the last election.

I hear more and more of those I would consider not to be interested in politics deciding 'something needs to be done'. Perhaps they were inclined to the left, perhaps they will hold their noses but they do not want any more of the services they or their family need destroyed any further.

You and others make it about Corbyn but that only a minority on either side of the political spectrum actually even know very much about him. You can vilify him as a person but very few are really affected by that. Those that even notice are probably either pro or anti what he stands for so you will not change their minds and the rest have a much broader view - as I actually do.

As for your mockery of the manifesto - it was costed, what the conservatives put forward was not. Even so, at the end of the day, that will actually again only matter to a very small percentage of voters. What most are looking for is a society that they, their family and their friends can survive and, hopefully, thrive in.

Of course not all older people will view Corbyn this way, but enough to keep him out of power I suspect ( or he would be PM by now.)
Young people have no idea what he was like, and see only the avuncular kindly chap he purports to be, others like his rabble rousing speeches and rebellious talk.
He is particularly good at pushing both those ideas of himself.
The manifesto put out by Labour was spoken of by a Labour MP as a ‘wish list sent by a ten year old to Santa’ and that a lot of it was ‘aspirational only’ would never be implemented
And he ( and other MP’s) were gobsmacked by it.

Sorry got a phone call "when it comes to running" should read "when it come to running an up-market dinner to collect donations".

People in the UK also have memories of what socialism has done for us and what the Tories have destroyed and attempted to destroy. How they have increased the riches of their cronies and their general incompetence when it comes to running anything other than Lemon. Yours is not the point of view of the whole of the older generation. It may, give or take, be the point of view of a proportion but it is still only how you viewed it and your opinion. Others have their own.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/homeless-man-shelter_uk_5a4cbd01e4b025f99e1ee13d

The two posts by the woman working in the shelter

People in the UK of a certain age have long memories for what Corbyn did and the way he spoke and acted in the past,which is why so few see him as PM material......it’s not rocket science.

She made two entries, one praising Corbyn for visiting early Christmas Day and bringing her chocolates,

The homeless man died Christmas Eve

She posted of the man's death New Years Eve ,

Thought long and hard !

"Calling on the public to “try a bit harder to put an end to this shit” in 2018, Ponder added: “Donate some time or money to a homeless charity, add your name to Crisis’ and Shelter’s campaigns, shout at your local MP.

“Be angry, be appalled, be anything you like - just don’t ignore it.”

One man named John Cheyne responded: “I’m so upset at this, I feel like crying.

“It’s disgraceful that this person died on a gym floor. It doesn’t matter if it was gentle or peaceful, it shouldn’t be happening.

“We should all be ashamed of such a sad state of affairs.” "

Might be a bit better for you to take notice of this, rather than criticise Corbyn for turning up, on his own, no film crew, just to see what he could do, and talking to the homeless as if they were real people.
He couldn't have been after their votes, as homeless people don't get a vote.
That's probably why Gauke said he wouldn't be going to a foodbank or a homeless shelter over Christmas - no votes in it for him.

This is the article about the man dying in the Crisis shelter, Jalima.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/homeless-man-shelter_uk_5a4cbd01e4b025f99e1ee13d

Just in case you want to read about it, rather than just Annie's criticism of the woman.

Another sick post, Jalima. I didn't expect that of you.

Just how extreme can you be Jalima? I feel quite worried by posts like that.

Corbyn's compassion

Funny, isn't it, he visits a shelter for a while and 'has compassion',
the same man who was rubbing colleagues' noses in their own blood

The latest polls give Corbyn the keys to number ten.
He will need the SNP to support him, but it can't be any worse than the Tory/DUP coalition.

"Hmmm...well, try googling something along the lines of ‘do ordinary Labour voters want Corbyn to be PM’ or variations of that, see what you get"

What will I get Lemons?

By the way, you can still download Streets of London with Ralph McTell, Annie Lennox and the Crisis Choir.

www.crisis.org.uk/get-involved/streets-of-london/

Shame on you, Annie.
She was talking about Corbyn's compassion, as you would know if you had read her facebook article. She didn't tweet.
She thought long and hard before putting it on facebook.
The facebook paragraphs about Corbyn were on a different part, not the same one.

How many in the shadow cabinet came to Westminster in 2015 , untill then MP's in his cabinet had to double up on positions