Corbyns Inertia

Do they call it Poll Dancing? Or is that too Eastern European for you?

jura

Is Nadhim Zahawi allowed to do that, jura, Tory MP who set up YouGov?

Brexit is forever.

As is Brussels, that secretive body telling us what is good for us. Also the thousands of highly paid bureaucrats on the EU gravy train who retain that power (to determine the power of a hair dryer) because they cannot be voted out.

We are paying billions in order to escape their clutches. Mind you, some of you like being held captive to Brussels and Strasbourg.

Oh FFS Day 6 (for flying saucers ...) just can't be asked any more

So you'd rather be in hock to trump, would you, Day6?
I presume you know that Fox wants to hold secret talks with US negotiators, and that we are not allowed to know about it for four years after the negotiations have ended?
Hope you enjoy your chlorinated chicken and GM foods.

I've just been reading that thousands of people have had their operations cancelled so that hospitals are okay for emergencies over the winter. That's before US insurance companies have been invited to run the NHS for us.

Radicalised, jura. Indeed no point in wasting breath...

Aren't flying saucers a bit old hat now, jura?
I thought it was flying cigars.

So you'd rather be in hock to trump, would you, Day6?

North America is a huge continent. I cannot imagine Trump will be doing any business transactions himself. Unless of course you imagine Frank-Walter Steinmeier conducts all business for Germany and French President Emmanuel Macron deals with French transations. One would hope American business people had more about them than their President.

Hope you enjoy your chlorinated chicken and GM foods.

Tut, tut dj You can do better than that, surely? What page of the Project Fear Handbook did that oft repeated gem come from?

Came straight from Fox. He doesn't think there is any problem with chlorinated chicken or GM foods.
In which case, why the need to keep the trade talks secret?

Rather childish, Day6, your point about trump.
He happens to be the president of the country and will be making the laws which inform trade deals.
Companies on their own don't make the laws about how customs and other taxes are charged. It's the country, their parliament, whatever name it comes under, not individual states, even, as far as exports are concerned.
Did you not know that?

In which case, why the need to keep the trade talks secret?

Why not ask Juncker and Barnier? They are past masters in art of secrecy and clandestine meetings with huge corporations.

May wanted to keep Brexit talks secret. Juncker and Barnier said no.
Where have you been not to know that?

theconversation.com/labour-in-the-1980s-not-the-disaster-we-once-thought-89250

He happens to be the president of the country and will be making the laws which inform trade deals.

No he won't. He will not be sitting burning midnight oil making laws. He will however be advised by his legal team as to what is appropriate and his teams of negotiators will be those who do business (if any) with the UK. He is a wild card and a loose cannon but he is a business man too and is unlikely to scupper any advantageous business transactions.

You know as well as I do that the minutiae of any trade deal will not be for Trump's eyes, nor is he likely to take a pen to any deal. He is not office bound nor is he directly in charge of any piddling administrative work.

But by all means link the buffoon Trump to the UK's fortunes. Scaremongering is your speciality.

Thatcher won the elections and labour had the first black woman MP and first openly gay MP , yep the eighties were a great success for labour. The loony left are more loony now.

I’m not a loony Anniebach but give the choice between May and Corbyn, that is the choice between more or the same and trying something different, fairer, I know how I’d vote.

The loony left are sitting on the front bench of the Opposition now Annie but am hoping that is where they stay, and that Corbyn has now ‘peaked’ but who can say, with politics?
If there really is almost five years to another GE there may be a chance to get somebody moderate for the position of Leader, but the way of voting now for the LP membership
Could have scuppered that.

May is PM by default.
At least Corbyn was voted in by the membership, even by Annie.

Are you saying that Labour voting the first black woman MP was a loony idea, Annie?
Be careful what you say. That comes across as racist.

Jen, your Momentum style bullying is tedious

Hardly bullying.

annie I feel very uncomfortable with your post 22/12 4.08. I’m sure you don’t mean to sound rascist and homophobic, but that is how it sounds to me.

I know you try to find ever trick in the book to trash Labour, but sometimes it is wise to think twice about what you are posting.
Love the way the loony right has coined the phrase!!

Jen, you seem unaware a party does not vote for a MP, the voting public do that.

Momentum upset the party members in Carlisle didn't they, they rejected the two Momentum candidates and selected a local labour councillor.

whitewave, it was Jens link which referred to the loony left

Well that’s democracy for you isn’t it? All the posts saying that the end of the world is nigh because Momentum was soon to rule it were a tad premature I think!

One swallow doesn't make a summer