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Corbyns Torque

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Primrose65 Tue 09-Jan-18 12:00:05

A continuation of Momentum and Intertia

www.gransnet.com/forums/news_and_politics/1243288-Corbyns-Inertia

Jalima1108 Wed 17-Jan-18 10:47:53

Why aren't female MPs in the Labour Party protesting about it?
For the same reason so many Labour MPs are doing nothing - fear of de-selection and therefore letting their constituents down.

Primrose65 Wed 17-Jan-18 10:51:02

Tony Robinson has come out and said Momentum has taken over the party. I rather hope Baldrick has a cunning plan. grin

Anniebach Wed 17-Jan-18 11:00:34

It would need to be a very cunning plan to out cunning Corbyn , he has had years of being so.

Primrose65 Wed 17-Jan-18 12:27:02

I look forward to Jared O'Mara back in the HoP next week.

All going according to plan.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/suspended-labour-mp-jared-omara-11864327

Anniebach Wed 17-Jan-18 13:04:39

Certaintly have put their skates on haven't they

Anniebach Wed 17-Jan-18 14:06:54

Wonder who writes the questions for Corbyn to ask in PMQ, he doesn't ask for Annie in Bristol these days

jura2 Wed 17-Jan-18 21:29:07

So what happened today???

'One of tonight's rebels, former Shadow Chancellor Chris Leslie, said: "There’s a growing number of Labour colleagues who feel so strongly about the threat of Brexit austerity that they will - with regret - break the whip to defend the interests of their constituents. When it comes to the single market I hope our frontbench will get off the fence before long."

The single market amendment tonight - during the report stage of the bill - was tabled by SNP Westminster leader Ian Blackford and was backed by the Lib Dems and Greens.

SNP MP Peter Grant said: "Today was a huge test for Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour party – and they failed miserably. Instead of voting with the SNP to prevent a devastating hard Brexit, Labour instead chose to sit on the sidelines, allowing the Tories to edge ever closer to the cliff-edge – putting the jobs, incomes, and living standards of millions of people at risk."

Like the Tories, Mr Corbyn has insisted the UK must quit the single market and customs union after Brexit, although he has said Labour wants Britain to maintain tariff-free access to the European market.

The Labour leader faces a battle within his own party on the issue - with 87% of Labour members wanting to remain in the single market according to a recent YouGov poll.'

Tegan2 Wed 17-Jan-18 22:45:35

Supposedly, on PMQT, may said to Corbyn after he'd been talking for a while I'm sorry, but you don't appear to be asking a question ( I didn't watch it myself, but the S.O. did). Labour should have the Tories on the ropes at the moment, and they don't appear to be capable of doing so. I'm losing hope with them, I'm afraid.

jura2 Thu 18-Jan-18 09:30:19

Playing a very dangerous and stupid game- losing hope- and am very angry and disappointed.

Primrose65 Thu 18-Jan-18 09:33:03

I watched it Tegan and yes, that happened. I don't think it was the first time either.

I agree totally that they could/should be ripping the govt apart here. We just don't seem to have any opposition party with any clout. The LP are too busy attacking MPs, prospective candidates and well respected NEC members. They're obviously the real enemy. sad

nightowl Thu 18-Jan-18 10:23:01

Mmm it wasn’t quite like that Tegan. I thought JC asked some very incisive questions about Carillion (and the corrupt relationship between the government and big businesses) and TM as usual didn’t answer them.

Anniebach Thu 18-Jan-18 10:29:09

He added a question after a long vote seeking ramble , all written down and read

paddyann Thu 18-Jan-18 14:31:10

the 13 Tory MP's from the Scottish branch voted with their party rather than with their country who voted to remain,the tory and Labour clowns in Holyrood voted down a sensible budget that promised 400 million more to NHS Scotland amongst other things while having NO plans of their own!!LABOUR ,the gift that keeps giving...now we know who Johann Lamont meant when she said we weren't genetically programmed in politics...her OWN party!

lemongrove Thu 18-Jan-18 14:37:44

Yes, at PMQ’s he did a short ranty ramble ( as he so often does) and then sat down without actually asking a question.
That gave T May the opportunity to say to the speaker that she was quite happy to answer his questions if ‘he would ask one!’

lemongrove Thu 18-Jan-18 14:39:20

Where is McD these days? Hardly ever on the front bench for PMQ’s.

Primrose65 Thu 18-Jan-18 14:46:45

He's at Davos, for the World Economic Forum, hobnobbing with the global elite he has spent his political life criticising.
I think he's there to explain why capitalism is wrong, over champagne, canapes and a little skiing. grin

Anniebach Thu 18-Jan-18 14:50:04

Monentum has won five of twenty four contests for marginal seats. Very strange, are they too busy concentrating on seats of those that want to deselect ?

Primrose65 Thu 18-Jan-18 15:54:10

Maybe inertia is setting in Annie!

Anniebach Thu 18-Jan-18 16:15:17

Maybe party members are waking up from land of Oz promises Primrose .

Surely though ,Lansman has a trick up his sleeve

Primrose65 Thu 18-Jan-18 17:12:33

Or an icepick!

Primrose65 Fri 19-Jan-18 16:32:06

I was just sent this by a friend and thought it was worth a share grin Someone has fabulous photoshop skills!

There's definitely no cult around JC. None at all. I just wish I knew who was really leading the LP.

whitewave Fri 19-Jan-18 16:34:33

There will be no de-selecting.

Anniebach Fri 19-Jan-18 17:01:28

Commenting on the booting off of Ann Black Comrade Corbyn said he wants an open and friendly debate , heaven help anyone on the receiving end of the opposite

jura2 Sat 20-Jan-18 14:20:03

Bravo Keir Starmer on the 'meaningful' vote for the House- at last, Mrs May and her colleagues know they will not be allowed to backtrack or take shortcuts.

Keir for Leader of the Oppositions- please, for a real and meaningful 'opposition'.

Primrose65 Sat 20-Jan-18 15:28:47

He's my MP Jura. Very easy on the eye in real life, hardworking and intelligent. I don't necessarily agree with everything he says, however, I do agree that he'd make a much better leader than JC. Sadly I'm now impressed by any politician who can speak a few sentences without trotting out the same old rhetoric and buzzwords on a topic. Not sure Momentum will have him though, he's got the capability to think and he's not afraid to use it.

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