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varian Tue 09-Jan-18 20:37:46

Virgin Trains West Coast line will no longer sell the Daily Mail which it regards as "no longer compatable with VT brand and beliefs". Nigel Farrage has tweeted that he finds this worrying.

Anniebach Thu 11-Jan-18 11:17:26

Chewbacca, no it wasn't you, unless you are Comrade Corbyn's spokesperson ?

Chewbacca Thu 11-Jan-18 11:07:34

Apparently not Anniebach. It was ME! grin

GrandmaMoira Thu 11-Jan-18 11:01:00

I wasn't aware that any newspapers were sold on trains. I only see the free Metro.

Anniebach Thu 11-Jan-18 10:54:52

100 flowers will bloom was a quote , it was said by Comrade Corbyn's spokesman

varian Thu 11-Jan-18 09:52:22

We are all different. That is true. I make no assumptions about other GNetters' reasons for choosing to read the DM, which is why I asked the question.

I am curious that's all , I would still like to know,and no, I do not expect everyone to be just like me. I've never met anyone who is.

lemongrove Thu 11-Jan-18 09:28:33

Good post Kitty
I think that your posts varian will go unaswered simply because they are not worth answering.
Asking people to supply reasons as to why they read the Mail because you can’t understand why they would, shows that you can’t understand why everyone isn’t like you.

eazybee Thu 11-Jan-18 09:16:39

Wikipedia decided the Daily Mail is unreliable??
Oh joy!

ninny Thu 11-Jan-18 08:15:32

Whether you love it or hate it, read it or not The Daily Mail is the top selling newspaper in the UK.

jenpax Thu 11-Jan-18 08:05:14

I am pleased whenever I hear that the DM is not being stocked in an out let regardless of my view on the outlet itself. I am not a fan of the Virgin brand having been a previous customer of their media arm and treated very badly and having seen many clients who have been poorly treated by their credit card team? however I loath the DM and consider the rag to be a conduit for xenophobia and targeting of the poor and vulnerable?

whitewave Thu 11-Jan-18 07:31:32

You can tell that most of the people on here are retired with more time than average, spending days on a story from which the rest of the world has moved on and forgotten because it was such a non story in the first place.

kittylester Thu 11-Jan-18 07:27:40

varian, I read the Mail, The Tines and two local papers. I also watch BBC news. I see the world around me, I listen to real people I know. I volunteer with real people. My husband worked for the real nhs for over 50 years.

My very slight right leanings are not influenced by The mail - I voted to remain for instance - but by observing the world around me and thinking about what I see.

Your two questions struck me as very passive aggressive and I am not surprised not many people have replied.

Good post*POGS*!

Hollycat Thu 11-Jan-18 06:06:32

This is a form of censorship. The Mail has criticised Branston and Virgin trains and I suppose Branston feels he is taking a stand. However there must be some truth in the comments or presumably he would be taking the Mail to court. Personally I really like the DM and will continue to read it (and leave it on the train for the next passenger).

Chewbacca Thu 11-Jan-18 01:13:38

But just in case you don't like links to spurious urls, I've copied and pasted the unexpurgated item for you:

"Jeremy Corbyn WILL let trains sell the Daily Mail once he renationalises the railways, his official spokesman declared today. The Labour leader refused to take the same view as Virgin Trains, which has sparked a furious debate after withdrawing the right-wing newspaper from sale.
Instead his team boasted "a hundred flowers will bloom!" - but they notably stopped short of demanding Virgin re-stock the publication. Mr Corbyn has regularly clashed with the Mail, and Richard Branson's empire this week claimed it was "not compatible" with Virgin's "brand and beliefs".

But Mr Corbyn is no friend of Virgin either after the company quit its struggling East Coast franchise three years early - described by Labour as a taxpayer-funded "bailout" worth more than £1billion. Responding to the row, Mr Corbyn's spokesman said today: "Jeremy’s an enthusiastic supporter of a free press and pluralism of the press. "Obviously private companies will decide what they want to stock on their trains. "But obviously under a Labour government the rail system will be brought back into public ownership... and a hundred flowers will bloom."

The "hundred flowers" quote is from notorious Communist Chinese leader Chairman Mao , who was referencing classical antiquity. Asked if the Daily Mail would be banned on publicly owned trains when Labour came to power, Mr Corbyn's spokesman confirmed: "There’ll be no bans on a publicly owned railway."

The right-wing newspaper accused Virgin of "censorship" while pundits accused the firm of "banning" the Mail. The newspaper is not banned but will no longer be stocked in on-board shops. Virgin claimed the decision was fuelled by commercial reasons and it only sold one copy for every four trains.

But an internal memo showed it came after staff raised "concerns" about the newspaper's conservative stance on immigration and LGBT rights.

Boris Johnson had attacked Virgin Trains' decision as "absurd, pompous, censorious and wrong" A Downing Street source said: "[The Prime Minister] has always been clear on the importance of a free press to our democracy and our society."

Chewbacca Thu 11-Jan-18 01:04:03

I think it might be you who hasn't read the linked article durham. Try again.

durhamjen Thu 11-Jan-18 00:53:03

The Mirror didn't say it; YOU did.
You haven't read the article, have you?

Chewbacca Thu 11-Jan-18 00:37:51

Take it up with the Mirror then if you believe they're printing "fake news", durham. I'm surprised if they are though; what with them being Corbyn supporters and all....... hmm

WilmaKnickersfit Thu 11-Jan-18 00:35:24

I can't remember the last time I bought a paper. I read them online and include the DM in my reading selection. I don't read the DM for the news, I read it to see what the bigots are upset about and what's going on in the show biz and celebrity world. For news mainly I read the Guardian, the BBC and Al Jazeera.

durhamjen Thu 11-Jan-18 00:34:02

Like I said, fake news. Not a word from Corbyn himself, but you say he said it. It isn't a quote from Corbyn at all.

Chewbacca Wed 10-Jan-18 23:48:59

Dunno durham, the quote is from that left wing tabloid newspaper, the Mirror. I personally don't read tabloids so I couldn't account for its veracity.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-corbyn-would-sell-daily-11829308

durhamjen Wed 10-Jan-18 23:40:20

Fake news, chewbacca?

Chewbacca Wed 10-Jan-18 23:27:24

Jeremy Corbyn WILL let trains sell the Daily Mail once he renationalises the railways, his official spokesman declared today.

But will it be Corbyn's decision to make Jalima? As far as I can make out, the decision not to sell a particular tabloid newspaper is nothing to do with the trains being nationalised. It's everything to do with the majority shareholder deciding that he doesn't want to sell it on his trains.
It worries me somewhat that Corbyn chose this as an opportunity to quote from a communist leader:

"But obviously under a Labour government the rail system will be brought back into public ownership... and a hundred flowers will bloom."
The "hundred flowers" quote is from notorious Communist Chinese leader Chairman Mao , who was referencing classical antiquity."

How apt.

Jalima1108 Wed 10-Jan-18 23:14:58

What on earth are you lot on?
confused
I thought most posters thought it was a non-story.

There is much to worry about in the world but this is just a little blip, a distraction.

MaizieD Wed 10-Jan-18 23:10:45

I find it very interesting there are a nucleus of people who would consider they are Liberal minded but in fact are anything but. They are perfectly happy to suppress free speech when it does not suit 'their view or agenda' and as long as it is not 'their' chosen source of reading feel content to see this form of censorship, however trivial or not it may be dependent on your view.

I don't believe I'm reading this. Nobody is suppressing anybody's free speech. A commercial enterprise, which never sold the full range of daily papers anyway, has decided to take one off its shelves because it feels it doesn't fit with the VT brand and beliefs. They are not frisking boarding passengers for copies of the DM and confiscating them; they're not segregating them in a 'DM readers only ' carriage; they're not burning copies on the platform. They're just not selling them any more.

Nor are Gnet posters suppressing free speech. Nobody has been flamed or trolled for being a DM reader.

What on earth are you lot on?

Jalima1108 Wed 10-Jan-18 22:59:28

I read Monty Don's page.

Jalima1108 Wed 10-Jan-18 22:58:31

There shouldn't be any Virgin trains. They should be nationalised.
Jeremy Corbyn WILL let trains sell the Daily Mail once he renationalises the railways, his official spokesman declared today.

Two birds, one stone.