Daily Mail

The Fail is a commodity like any other commodity. A retailer chooses what they sell.

I have never bought a newspaper on a train, usually buy one before I set off. The Metro free paper is handy too. ( Would the decision be down to the delightful Sir Dick?)

www.facebook.com/stopfundinghate/videos/581101482227186/

Wonder what will be tomorrows DM headlines??

Aparently VT West Coast supply only three newspapers -The Times, FT and the Mirror.

I would prefer the "I", but if only three papers are available the exclusion of the DM can hardly be described as censorship.

Anyone who wants to read the DM can do so on their phones.

A load of hot air.

Before haters rush in to sneer at the DM perhaps they should consider WHY Branson is silencing one of its detractors.

This is a really interesting perspective and one I agree with. Virgin will (I hope) attract a LOT of bad press over this matter.

From the Spectator. Could this action be "...a reflection that the Daily Mail has been at the forefront of criticism of Virgin Trains for exploiting its monopoly to jack up fares and its failure to deliver on the East Coast, where it runs trains in a joint operation with Stagecoach and has just been released from its contractual obligations to make payments to the government to 2023?"

And

"The Daily Mail and the Guardian might not see eye to eye on many things, but one of the things on which they are agreed is that Virgin Trains is a disgrace.

Last week, for example, Alex Brummer wrote in the Daily Mail of how the consortium of Virgin Trains and Stagecoach, which runs services of the East Coast route, has turned ‘the eight-year franchise they secured into a breathtaking failure that could cost taxpayers hundreds of millions’. The Mail’s conclusion was absolutely in line with the Guardian’s own coverage of Virgin’s bailout (you can read Nils Pratley’s piece from last week here). It is hardly surprising that Virgin should attract such attention from across the political spectrum – the government’s treatment of Virgin, which was allowed to book the profits during the good times on its West Coast franchise but is saved from making payments elsewhere in the bad times, is a scandal from either a socialist or capitalist perspective.

The ‘Stop Funding Hate’ types who might be tempted to cheer Virgin’s decision to stop stocking the Mail might also like to reflect on Virgin’s treatment of a female student who last week complained that a Virgin employee called her ‘honey’ when she complained about a nightmare journey. She received, in a return tweet, the response: ‘Sorry for the mess up Emily, would you prefer ‘pet’ or ‘love’ next time?’ I am not sure exactly what Virgin Trains brand and beliefs are supposed to represent but I am damned sure they are not compatible with the progressive politics of people who back Stop Funding Hate any more than they are with the Daily Mail."

It was the staff who asked them to stop selling it, because they didn't agree with its editorial stance.

The staff??

You couldn't make it up.

Apparently the DM follows a very strict code set down by the media regulator IPSO, whose chair of the Editors Code committee happened to be Paul Dacre, Editor of the DM.

On the face of it, it seems wrong that anyone should dictate what publications should be sold in whatever place. I think I would feel a little more annoyed, though, if it weren't for the fact that on some flights I have been on the Daily Mail was handed out for free. I suppose the DM provided the papers free of charge but nevertheless the airline was facilitating the dissemination and reinforcement of a certain political stance.

I don't have a problem with this. On a plane you don't get a full range of papers. You're lucky to get a choice.

On the train space is limited in the shop and I'm surprised you can buy a paper at all. The Metro is free and a good read. If you want a specific paper, then buy it at the station and help keep the station shop going.

Having said that, I agree with the point made re the sarcastic and demeaning way a woman was spoken to regarding her letter of complaint - hardly an example of progressive thinking.

Just thought, is it only in 1st class you can buy a paper?

I guess it's up to them what they want to sell. In Merseyside, a lot of shops and newsagents and even the hospitals still refuse to sell The Sun in the wake of Hillsborough.

Papers are free in 1st, you buy them with any other tickets.

Thanks Primrose, I just can't picture where in the shop the papers are, but I will be on a Virgin train next month so I will keep an eye out.

Wasn't it wikipedia that ruled out using the DM as a source of information because of its sensationalist stance and poor fact checking?

Yes, this is from the DM Wikipedia page

In February 2017, the English Wikipedia community decided that the Daily Mail was "generally unreliable" to use as a reference in Wikipedia. Some in the discussion objected on the grounds that the more formal decision had no precedent, that it would be widely misinterpreted, and that the Daily Mail is useful for some topics, such as sports reporting. The Daily Mail issued a statement objecting to the decision, while other parties expressed little surprise.

Day6 I thought that your post was very informative, though I have to admit to smiling at the irony of the final paragraph: The fact that someone had complained about being called 'Honey' would usually generate an article in the Mail very much along the lines of the alleged response from Virgin, so regarding that particular instance, I imagine they very much see eye to eye with them

... or at least with the individual who made the offending tweet.

Some of us are clever enough to dislike both the Mail AND Virgin.

And some of us realise that, if Virgin is the only train service provider in the area you're trying to travel in/to, you have no choice but to use them, no matter how much we dislike them.

Are you making the case for re-nationalising railways Chewbacca ;) ?